I wish this was a joke lol it’s all in fun but this is the funniest struggle session of all time.
Hot take: There is no point in smoking olive oil, shit wont even get you high… go buy hash oil like a normal person!
Gamers, I swear
Filling my bong with olive oil instead of water just because I like the taste.
Actually now I kinda want to try this. For science you know.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but THC is oil-soluble so you’d just be inhaling gross, olive oil flavored smoke that doesn’t get you as high as water.
Based and
pilledwell then you use it in dishes after and it gets you high then
I don’t think olive oil would get your dishes very clean
The easier way to do this is just use olive oil to clean your glass. I throw my shit in the oven to heat up to 250 degrees (anything above 300 will destroy THC), pour coconut or olive oil depending on what I have, and just shake that bitch. Gets everything off, puts all the THC into the oil for later use. I recommend using coconut oil and making capsules out of it if you’re cleaning glass used for flower because the flavor is ass, but if it’s a dab rig then it’s perfectly fine to put into edibles and will taste like normal weed oil
That is an awesome idea and I’m gonna try it next time I clean my bowl.
Sounds hot on the hands
Use oven mitts. Or just wrap the whole thing in a towel for fall and heat protection. Either way, extremely easy to account for
Awesome lol
That would make for a funny prank tho
This is an interesting idea for decarbing weed though. Fun fact, dab rig reclaim is pretty much perfectly decarbed and requires no extra steps to use.
Could you then use the olive oil for edibles?
Probably but it would either have to be a very small bong or you’d have to put a ridiculous amount of weed through it
getting accused of bogarting as you juggle the thing through the air like you’re trying to grab a wet bar of soap
E) IRT your edit: in our dumber years we used to do goofy shit like fill it with Root Beer and stuff like that. Honestly disappointing, you’re trading off a weird hit for taking twice as long to clean out your glassware.
Yeah lol I been there. Like I said though we did it for science.
It’s so fucking funny because if these people knew as much about culinary as they claim to know, they know there are many dishes that are in fact fried in olive oil. The smoke point discussion is pop science going too far in food. Kenji did an article about this. If these dumbass food nerds spent more time reading and actually cooking rather than arguing with people online, they would know how shit actually performs and how to actually cook. But instead we have a bunch of people who nerded the fuck out when The Menu came out, without realizing that they are Tyler, not the Chef.
So yeah, fry things in olive oil if you want them to taste like olive oil. Don’t use olive oil if you don’t want it to taste like olive oil
Edit: Adding this because I think some of you fuckin libs need a theory lesson
I. NO INVESTIGATION, NO RIGHT TO SPEAK
Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn’t that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?
It won’ t do!
It won’t do!
You must investigate!
You must not talk nonsense!
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III. OPPOSE BOOK WORSHIP
Whatever is written in a book is right — such is still the mentality of culturally backward Chinese peasants. Strangely enough, within the Communist Party there are also people who always say in a discussion, “Show me where it’s written in the book.” When we say that a directive of a higher organ of leadership is correct, that is not just because it comes from “a higher organ of leadership” but because its contents conform with both the objective and subjective circumstances of the struggle and meet its requirements. It is quite wrong to take a formalistic attitude and blindly carry out directives without discussing and examining them in the light of actual conditions simply because they come from a higher organ. It is the mischief done by this formalism which explains why the line and tactics of the Party do not take deeper root among the masses. To carry out a directive of a higher organ blindly, and seemingly without any disagreement, is not really to carry it out but is the most artful way of opposing or sabotaging it.
Lmao makes a shitpost about cooking oil gets a Mao quote I love you guys
Olive oil being a struggle session is just so frustrating to me. As someone who has a deep love for food and cooking, it hurts quite a bit to see how the internet has pretty much re-birthed cooking snobbery in this entirely new way. I am an exceptionally knowledgeable cook, having worked in a million different types of places and even fully running a place for a little bit, lots of research into food science and such. I like the nerdy side of cooking that the internet has brought out, but the snobbery of olive oil’s smoke point is a great example of when it starts just getting into re-establishing french style elitism based on racism and classism that has kept the true heroes of culinary history out of the public eye. Most of the great dishes we have, some of the smartest food practices around today, were made by illiterate, uneducated slaves and workers, and those people broke a ton of culinary “rules”. Modern internet cooks stand on the shoulders of giants and spit on them. The guy who invented modern barbecue ribs was an illiterate slave making food for his owner, where his owner took credit for everything he did. It wasn’
One of the first widespread foods that had a sauce purposefully stabilized was creole Gumbo, which used okra, a veggie brought over from Africa. The only people who had okra at the time were black people brought to America via the slave trade. However, people like to credit the french with sauce stabilization through rouxs because the french could put it on paper and the slaves couldn’t. It’s why we see white people essentially try to claim Creole food by making some changes and calling it cajun, and they do it by legitimizing and de-legitimizing certain techniques.
Or how historically, Central America uses very little oil in their cooking, preferring the flavor of char over a maillard reaction done with oil. Now the delicious food of Central America is being lost over time because cooks are listening to these online people and replacing unique flavor elements from their cultures with french cooking practice. THAT is why white people can’t make tacos, it’s literally because they’re cooking like white people and have had “cook everything in oil” drilled into them from the start of their cooking. It would be one thing if food was just changing with the times, people having different palettes, but that’s not the case, otherwise those gentrified white people taco shops would be a hit amongst Hispanic people.
I see the whole olive oil debate, and similar discussions as a way to dismiss cooks with unique techniques and their food. People saying you can’t fry in olive oil are implicitly saying that pretty much the entire middle east and medeterranian were just burning absolutely everything they cooked until white people made canola oil. It’s re-establishing elitist cooking standards with bad information. So everybody’s food is becoming more and more tasteless, more Americanized, switching to more neutral oils, all in the name of “not burning” something that isn’t even actually burning. It’s annoying.
More food posting pls
I do a lot of foodposting on my account. Like Mao said, talk on things that you’re well educated on and you’ll never make an ass of yourself. Nobody will argue with me over olive oil frying because there’s very little to challenge on well informed takes built from empirically testing books and experiencing things first hand. I’m very well educated on food, and can write at length about history, techniques, and unique flavors I’ve gotten to try.
Do you happen to know anything about stir frying? I’ve been reading up on it a bit recently and it seems like traditional stir frying would smoke the shit out of the oils available in China at the time.
Not as much as I’d like, I will give that as a primer. However, I do know general food history and can extrapolate. So from what I do know, Seasame and Tea Seed oil probably would have been the choices. These have higher smokepoints of 450-500 degrees, if they were cooked outside, smoke wouldn’t have been an issue. Many stir fries are based on SE asian spring veggies, aka when you wouldn’t want a fire running in your house the whole day. We cook inside now, so smoke is way bigger of an issue. Plus, modern Chinese cuisine also creates a shit ton of smoke inside. Fried rice and stir fries requires a smoking hot piece of carbon steel. If it was cold enough to put a fire inside, they probably just made soup from their leftovers instead of a stir fry to avoid the smoke, because nobody wants their house full of smoke.
So yeah, they were probably creating an obscene amount of smoke and didn’t care because they were outside. Many modern home cooks suggest cooking stir fries using their wok over the grill to avoid the indoor smoke. If they weren’t, it’s because Stir Fry doesn’t necessarily require the super high heat we associate it with
So I shouldn’t worry too much about my oil smoking, at least in terms of flavor?
Sesame oil is weird because a lot of people insist it shouldn’t be used as a cooking oil but that seems to be completely untrue.
I thought “real” stir fry required more heat than what a typical western stove can give. I’ve kind of used that as an excuse for my attempts at stir-frys being mid at best.
To be fair, the “you can’t stir fry in a western kitchen” is a half-remembered claim from an old book about Chinese cuisine written by an English woman, so I’m not hard to convince otherwise.
To this day, there are outdoor kitchens in China.
Here’s Wang Gang, a world class Chinese chef, cooking literally next to a rice paddy. He normally works in a professional kitchen in Sichuan but for some of his vids he’s at home with his family and they have an outdoor stove setup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxpCVrwwF-g
This is really cool, thanks!
hey i went on this journey a few years ago with fuscha dunlops cookbooks as a starting point and eventually machine translated recipies and leylalove is pretty much dead on. a combination of high smoke point oils, doing it fast and doing it outside are how you dont smoke yourself out.
iirc there’s a section in every grain of rice about stir frying. i’ll see if i can dig it up.
I’m now a little tempted to try using my induction cooktop outdoors…
Longtime cook who knows what the hell I’m doing here as well. And you said it perfectly. Having to explain at work that the marinated sundried tomato mix I made for pizzas were supposed to char in the oven just today was a fucking battle. That’s still in the white boy domain, but unless it’s meat doing any kinda charring or searing is just making burnt food to many
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12/10 EXCELLENT post, thank you
One of the first widespread foods that had a sauce purposefully stabilized was creole Gumbo, which used okra, a veggie brought over from Africa. The only people who had okra at the time were black people brought to America via the slave trade. However, people like to credit the french with sauce stabilization through rouxs because the french could put it on paper and the slaves couldn’t.
This is basically true for every single thing from foods to animals to plants to insects
whites renamed them all and paid no attention to the actual native names the people had before
wikipedia needs to be occupied and completely changed by the JDPON
Guy with a pacojet: Actually, you can tell the difference between vegetable oil blended with corn oil and straight corn oil when you use it to cook deconstructed apple fritters with a miso-chipotle glaze
God I hate Pacojet people. I have a Pacojet, you know what it’s called? Freezing my robocoupe blade.
Pacojet texture is pretty fucking cool, it really does get finer than pretty much anything else. However, it’s pretty much a gimmick for anything except for making ice cream.
I don’t get their problem, as you say, Olive oil makes things taste like olive oil, so use it for things that taste good with olive oil, use a different oil for different things.
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Death to America
Each three by themselves is bad enough, but together? Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
Cover your car batteries in olive oil before you throw them into the ocean.
slather your cat in olive oil before letting them outside
drizzle your river rocks in oil before stacking them (adds challenge)
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Olive oil makes for the best PPB on the planet!
Discord?
My phone number is banned from both. Pedophiles and Nazis, however, are welcome!
It somehow manages to be worse than Telegram
Yeah. It’s a real shame people here use it, considering how a fair number of us have our Matrix linked to our Hexbear account.
Does Hexbear have a matrix chat server?
yes but it’s mainly for mods/devs. I don’t think it gets used as a general purpose chat server. I think anyone can request an account but one of the admind has to add you to the channels relevant to you.
There is a public one it’s called The Cool Zone
huh was not aware
Not as far as I can tell, maybe make your question a post? Then maybe we could get the ball rolling on making one. The Hexbear mod chat is on Matrix, though.
Matrix also lets you actually search all the rooms. Discord’s whole explore feature was repulsive and I avoided eye contact with it the entire time. Almost everything requires a random invite from a dev’s twitter or github
Yeah, Discord doesn’t seem like it’s properly made for anything besides friends, just on the invite features alone.
I did not know we can do that. Nice.
I agree especially since I only want to use Discord for like issue reporting for software and mods and shit
the issue i remember keep coming up is that there still isn’t an actually good matrix client that approximates discord’s layout. the basic logic of a community being on a “server” with multiple channels people freely swap between , with maybe some voice channels that are compeltely disconnected from the text channels, still isn’t actually implemented because matrix still operates on IRC logic where every single channel is supposed to be a community unto itself. element’s spaces feature is a very poor substitute, and withotu that basic killer feature i don’t see any mass migration happening anytime soon.
Disagree. Its a very convenient platform to me and most of my friends are on there.
“most of my friends are on there” doesn’t make a platform good, and doesn’t mean we shouldn’t discourage people from using it. But, aside from that, it’s probably a bad idea to have an account that is connected to real life friends also connected to internet communism.
Makes it good for me and my life. I dont organize on there and dont think people should. And neither are people arguing about olive oil on a gaming discord, whether it happens to be connected to Hexbear or not.
Also these arent real life friends i dont have those anymore.
Security heads are like the lamest people alive. The gestapo are not going to come for you for shitposting on Hexbear or discord. If they come for you, itll be because you did something that actually threatens power. If you think Hexbear does that, youre a self-important maroon. Hexbear doesnt do organizing. We barely do education.
Also, discord and hexbear accounts arent linked in any way.
Discord is the reason Im a real anti imperialist. More than hexbear is i learned shit on Redpixel lol. And i formed a social support network on there that has kept me from offing myself. I dont have irl friends anymore like i said. My discord friends keep me alive after my one remaining irl friend dumped me over a stupid misunderstanding (which admitedly happened on discord, but thats how we kept in touch during the pandemic).
Its just a comminication platform. And the server system is very useful. Only thing i dont like about it is that helpful information is stored on privatre servers and not searchable online. Death of forums ect ect.
My main opposition to Discord isn’t really security, but rather that it’s proprietary. I’m a bit extreme when it comes to that, the computer I’m writing this from is literally running linux-libre.
The OpSec part doesn’t hurt either, but it’s mainly just a way to convince other people to stop using proprietary platforms.
I mean thats fair i guess i just dont think its really all that useful to try to get people to leave proprietary platforms personally. Sorry for assuming.
Strange thing to say considering this free website had to be founded after the users were hounded off a proprietary platform for endorsing the killing of slaveowners.
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Olive Oyl was always a smokeshow
Had a roommate who tried to deep fry chicken with olive oil. I came home and opened the door and he’s just chilling in the kitchen with a pot on the stove, smoke absolutely billowing out of the pot like a cartoon. Kitchen was greasy for months.
reading that made me wanna go scrub my face 🤢
i’m gonna ban everyone in here its so stupid
idk what I’m doing here but yeah I’d happily cop a ban too
Olive oil has a lower smoke point then other oils and should not be used to deep fry anything. It’s just a waste of good olive oil, even if you deep fry below the smoke point temperature. The actual temperature number doesn’t matter much, it’s just a crude measurement of when the oil starts visibly smoking, and varies between different grades of olive oil, the usage of the oil is what matters.
smoke point has very little correlation with when the oils start breaking down, which is the thing people are actually worried about. Extra virgin olive oil is one of the most stable oils at high heat despite the lower smoke point. It shouldn’t be used to deep fry anything, but if someone is worried about oil smoke points and carcinogens from eating heated oil, then they really shouldn’t be eating fried food at all in the first place.
Yeah that’s what I mean with regards to smoke point being a crude measurement. It doesn’t tell you much, except that the oil begins smoking at that temperature.
oh haha ok, nvm, carry on. I guess I’m just primed for seed oil discourse, I don’t know why so many people these days think they’re gonna get cancer if they consume just a drop of oil.
This is also in regards to your carnist talking points comment further down, but isn’t this more of a symptom of the 2000’s fad diets?
I remember “vegetable oil = bad” being as old as Paleo and the guys championing it aren’t vegans but they’re not Liver King type dudes either, meatheads used to make fun of them for eating too many vegetables and it was more about “primal living,” faux-“wellness,” and “detoxing” type shit.
Jack Dorsey / McConaughey types
Yea I remember vegetable oil being bad from around the trans fat news cycle era 🤔🤔🤔
yeah I do agree the seed oil discourse has a wider audience than purely carnivores. I’ve honestly mostly encountered it from carnivores who use it to promote cooking with butter, lard and tallow, which is where that comment came from. But you’re right, there are a lot of other fad diets that have latched on to the whole seed oil thing, some of which are actually vegan or compatible with veganism.
If you’re deep frying anything in olive oil, you fucked up long ago and are now in the finding out phase.
Source: southerner. Use canola or vegetable oil when deep frying your entire meal, kiddos.
or to pop popcorn, ask me how I know
Lmao. I can imagine the flavour it imparted to the popcorn if it got it to pop
instead, imagine a 3 foot tower of flame
I was a dumb child
YearOfTheCommieDesktop trying to make popcorn, colorized
Why does this even matter. Extra virgin olive oil is way too fucking expensive to deep fry with even if I wanted to smoke out my kitchen and eat olive oil flavored chimichangas. Whole debate is bikeshedding for people with nice kitchens in their suburban homes and nothing else to do except pontificate about how seed oils are going to make you trans. Including Kenji, who in a just world would be court-enjoined from publishing links to EVOO deep frying fume analyses until the price falls below $0.30 per fluid ounce. And I thought I was living like a king, upgrading from canola to soybean.
While I’m at it let me take this moment to further complain about the absolutely piss-poor state of American rental stock kitchens. I have NEVER lived in an apartment that had an actual exhaust venting to building exterior, only those bullshit filters underneath a rangetop microwave. Everything gets coated in gummy dust from the aerosols that are recirculated and you can watch a CO2 meter climb to the maximum reading as the oven warms up. If you want to char anything you need to pull down the smoke detector - god help you in a big apartment building where they’re hardwired and all you can do is poke the button once it’s already started beeping. All of this is academic. Go fry something
You see olive oil frying used for very specific foods, and they make pretty big differences when people actually go for it. I typically fry in peanut or corn oil at home, it’s the cheapest where I live and has the best flavor. However, something like Italian artichoke hearts, or Greek “beneigts” (or whatever they call them) the olive oil is a night and day difference. Idk, it’s a practice more for restaurants than anything. Most people aren’t discerning enough to know when an olive oil fry is worth it, because it is very rare.
Also, Kenji does food science for restaurants. When we’re talking about frying things and don’t care about creating smoke, it’s because we’re in professional kitchens with good ventilation, and are charging people out the ass for a plate so we have to make sure shit is REALLY good so our restaurants don’t become part of the 90 percent. There is nothing wrong with him answering a question, and dunking on the suburban food snobs you don’t like. It’s not that we should be frying things in olive oil, anybody can tell you that’s too expensive to be worth it. It’s about not deligitimizing cooking processes for a reason that isn’t even true. You have any idea how many times some rich fuck I was a private cook for tried to not pay for their food because “you can’t fry in olive oil because it burns the oil” like they weren’t happily using said “burnt” olive oil to eat 2 loaves of bread. It’s about not letting people be armchair experts on subject matters they don’t understand
exactly this - olive oil of any grade is just too expensive to support general deep-frying in full stop, and if the big difference is smoke products making their way into your kitchen, just use veg oil for (most, unless the recipe specifies an oil) deep frying. Even if your fans/filters are good, you’re still dumping a bunch of smoke and polymerized oils into the space between your interior and exterior wall. Congrats, you’ve impregnated your previously fire-resistant gypsum board with flammable oil byproducts and tars for taste, when the end product is 80%+ as good with cheaper, cleaner oil.
Unless it’s especially good fried in olive oil, cook it in the cheap, use refined frying media because everyone wants the tastes/textures of fried food (crispy, fatty, etc), but the upfront costs for deep-frying are always going to be steep against other preparation methods and gain profitability at volume (i.e. french fries, chip shops). You and your turkey-frying, house-fire-starting setup do not a bespoke chippy make, so don’t aspire to be one.
I have operated and maintained commercial deep fryers and my experience is that they fucking suck. They require daily maintenance and the maintenance fucking sucks. The products of commerical fryers fucking suck. Yes. All of them absolutely suck. Even your favorite hole-in-the-wall has a garbage deep fryer that’s held together with love, duct tape and Sysco’s boxed bottle of oil de jour. Deep frying is an absolutely mid cooking technique. Fix Your Hearts Unto Mediocrity or Die.
Deep Frying creates a mid product most of the time, so don’t aspire to excellence. Just aspire to a crispy crust and good browning. Everything else is gravy.
Deep fried turkey is so fucking cursed. The only good thing about it is how flavorful the oil gets for using in other things, but the turkey itself is mid.
However, I’ve never worked at a restaurant that did olive oil frying that had olive oil in their main fryer. It was always a separate midwalled pan with a spider strainer for specific items. Deep fryers just get way too hot for it to ever be viable, separate from price. As far as price goes though, if you’re at home it really isn’t that bad because you can just re-use the olive oil for everything else. Cross contamination is what makes it so expensive for restaurants. The infused fry oil is pretty damn good for pretty much anything you’d use the olive oil for. I don’t personally use it to fry at home, but I’ve done this at a commercial level before at an EXTREMELY weirdly managed restaurant where I was essentially help for a bunch of disgustingly rich people.
Arancini and similar dishes are a night and day difference when done in olive oil. However, I’ve only eaten those on my employer’s dime so also get the satisfaction of eating their food.
oh yeah, I haven’t worked at a place that uses olive oil in a deep fryer either- I just worked at a couple of places with deep fryers and they were a pain in the ass, and most of the time, the stuff that came out of it was fair-to-middling. I know an Italian place that does small fried and baked foods (stromboli, arancini, croquettes etc) that I’m sure does all their frying in OO of some kind and it absolutely fucking slaps; but I’m pretty sure all their stuff is extremely small-batch too considering they usually sell out their food by like 12:30 every day.
“gaming discord”??? Are y’all having offscreen adventures without me?
Yeah we playing Foxhole.
now i kinda want in
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We started again recently to check out the naval update.
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I haven’t got a chance to crew a ship yet but we did have a really funny encounter with a warden saboteur below decks on a docked battleship who we chatted with til he said “Fuck the Russians” and then I pulled out my pistol and shot him in the face.
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Can’t believe this started another Discourse ™ I have been giggling every time I checked this post while I was at work. Also @[email protected] made some great posts.
¡Thank you!
Fuck is we tryna smoke olive oil for /j
extra virgin olive oil makes your coochie double tight
hexbear having a struggle session over carnist talking points, you hate to see it.
Lmao seed oil discourse is amazing bc these guys are talking like everyone is getting free HRT or they can’t digest protein meanwhile their strongest soldiers are turning beet red and vlogging how they visibly aged themselves a year every month
what
olive oil is from a veggie dude
the whole seed oil controversy is adjacent to the carnivore fad diet, largely an attempt to get people to eat more animal products
And what is the ‘carnivore fad diet’, is that like a new raw meat diet or something? I thought people abandoned that for being obviously horrible for anyone? Raw fish is the only good raw meat.
I think i’m just out of my depth in this tbh, i have no idea the background of any of this. It sounds extremely online though.
the carnivore diet is yeah just people eating solely meat for breakfast lunch and dinner. In its most extreme it’s the Jordan Peterson diet of beef water and salt. Most people allow themselves to eat other types of meat though, and some take it to include all animal products including milk and butter. But honestly most people I’ve seen don’t do raw meat, they literally just buy a ribeye from the grocery store for breakfast lunch and dinner. The most extreme do eat raw meat, organ meats and fermented meats though.
They push the seed oil thing as part of their effort to convince everyone that plant products are actually killing us and are the cause of all chronic diseases, cancer, heart disease, etc, and we’d all live to 100 and never be sick if we cut out all plant products. There are some very weird claims, like carbs are the reason we sunburn and if you don’t eat carbs you won’t sunburn. Really it’s just terminally online chuds who are still mad about their moms making them eat their veggies when they were 5. Although as someone noted above, there are other fad diets that latch on to the whole seed oil thing, including vegan and vegan compatible fad diets.
These people are completely delusional. I’ve never even heard of anyone ever like this. How do you rid plants out of your diet? How are fruits and vegetables a problem? How is just eating beef going to be healthy. Thats like declaring war on fruit and deciding to only eat celery.
There are some very weird claims, like carbs are actually what makes you sunburn
What
NOT THE FUCKING SUN
THE FLAMING ORB OF DEATH SHOOTING RADIATION LASERS?
Diet discourse is fuckin weird and very online. Most of it is always some cash grab or cult. I think I’m going to just stick to curbing fast food intake and doing outdoorsy things. Worked pretty well so far.
I just can’t get over this though, this is just stupid. Its pure ideology and “veggies gay” patriarchy shit. Although, i’ve been in quite a lot of spaces, these people seem to be a small portion of those already off the deep end. I have never come into contact with anyone like this, even when I lived in MAGA land. Luckily this means its easy to dismiss. These people don’t exist offline, so getting mad about them is nonsensical. Worrying over these people is not worth anyone’s time.
They seem to be just god-tier rage bait. No one outside of twitter even talks like this.
although as you’ve said, olive oil shit has been appropriated to every diet, how the heck is olive oil discourse about purely Natsoc dietiers? It seems like just getting mad at something for no reason. The ‘struggle session’ seems like people just having dumb ideas about food ingredients, a tale as old as time.
Also we got a lovely effortpost out of this about the subject, it was fun to read.
yeah it’s all an extremely terminally online thing. Definitely had it’s moment though, as I say Jordan Peterson and as a result that whole manosphere/incel/far-right conspiracy media sphere, Rogan and all those guys, were pushing this stuff for a while. Not sure if they’re all still going on harping on it.
They all blame the “vegetable industry” for pushing carbs and vegetarian diets, which, what? Absolutely baby brained. Of course the meat and dairy industries are just innocent smol bean victims of the evil Marxist vegetable industrial complex who would never astroturf message boards with things like “vegetable oils are killing you eat more butter,” or “grains make your brain smaller eat more beef.”
Anyway unless the hexbear gaming discord is for some reason really interested in the science of vegetable oils and different smoke points, it’s almost definitely a struggle session over whether “seed oils” are bad for you or not. Which…they’re not.
I think it’s absolutely the HGD being really interested in the science of vegetable oils and different smoke points
Seed oil discourse seems downstream of and invented to support the broader culture war issues such as climate change taking our burgers and vegetables (soy) force feminizing everyone. Chuds marinade the contradiction between their white collar urban treat based lifestyle and their Rvme inspired self image of manly patricians living off the land and it makes them mad. They’re too “fact based” and “objective” to just say that they think veggies make their peepees soft, so they invent/create a market for bullshit like brussel sprouts causing sunburns.
All of this instead of recognizing what’s actually happening with agribusiness and food - seed oils aren’t inherently bad, but they’re cheap so the ultraprocessed garbage food that is all too common in the US is chock full of them.
But the concept of “frying broccoli in seed oil = healthy, li’l Debbie’s cake rolls = unhealthy” doesn’t appeal to these idiots because it doesn’t also tie into their settler idea of what being a man is.
The irony of course is that the best way to get the hardest, wettest, best tasting genitals is to just eat some fucking plants.
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