USAID funding gets cut
Matt Yglesias says something positive about China
Can it get any more obvious?
He was a shill, she wasn’t real
He was a fed, she was a fed
USAID was a skater boy. Matty said “See ya later, boy”
More comments than likes. Hexbear is back.
Edit: smh, the ratio is off. Reopen the gates! Unban the libs!
Return from exile
People are out there making bourgeois AI slop on X while on hexbear people are making real proletarian art.
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beautiful
You love to see it folks. We have the best
, many people are saying it. Tremendous threads. 
Hexbear post reaching 100 comments. Is it time to
?edit: ah the usual federation session/slop, we are truly back.
edit: ah the usual federation session/slop, we are truly back.
A million baby leftists on TikTok and we’re stuck arguing with the same hundred reddit dorks
If those baby leftists could stomach content that wasn’t 20 seconds long we’d have the Red Guard back.
The libs are back lmao
oh fuck the pain of meeting reddit exiles begins again
In the 2 months we were gone they had a new reddit migration of euro libs
One Billion Hexbearicans
We’re back, baby!
Oh, how I’ve missed smooth brain libs getting dunked on by my friendly neighborhood Hexbears. Gets the blood pumping. Makes me feel alive.Oh did I miss it?
It might not be as active as few hours ago but there might be few on-going sessions.
I get enough of em on Lemmy.ml, lmao
I always applaud your ability to stay calm in the face of so many awful people
Yea, one is making a MWoG post right now because I dared to state the historical fact that Socialism ended famine in Russia and China, and is defending Ukraine shelling civilians in Donetsk. Very fun people.
you’ll need to check the modlog for three or four of the ghoul’s more chauvinist comments
which I recommend doing before engaging
EDIT: hmm a bunch more of the comments have been removed now
Probably for the best
Just getting some dunking out of my system, it’s been a while.
>shitload of comments on an otherwise normal post
yeah its federation time
Of course China is going to win Matty, they have a billion people and America doesn’t.
Oh yeah he’s the guy that wrote One Billion Americans
I gotta say. As a someone who was a teen fully deep in the “China bad” propaganda machine, I really don’t get the fears that Americans have about China. It’s a country like any other. At least they have healthcare kekw.
What got you out of the China Bad machine, if you don’t mind me asking?
Sorry for the late response 😅
But to put it briefly, I was just kinda fascinated by the Chinese tech scene. Specifically the smartphone market post-2019 huawei ban. That led me into learning about china infrastructure efforts.
I don’t think I’d call myself “pro-china.” I’m not “pro-any country.” But I think that it’s genuinely a pretty neat place I’d like to visit someday.
PS, this video is really fucking cool 😁
Clickbaity title, but I found it super informative.
All good! Thanks for getting back to me. Yeah the tech scene is one where China’s dominance is undeniable, it went 'China can’t make anything > China can only copy > China must be stealing to get ahead > We have to stop China from innovating"
Even my tech bro workmates recognise that efforts to hold things like DeepSeek and TikTok back are geopolitically motivated
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
When Xi Jinping hit me up on Path of Exile (Tencent game) and said he’d give me money if I posted positive things about China I really started to see the guy in a brighter light.
I got three Mythic Skins on Honour of Kings in exchange for this year of posting, I would have accepted just a legendary though
For me it’s been watching their insane infrastructure growth both in China and in Africa. They’re actually improving the world while usa just privatizes it in order to just improve it for the few.
damn chat does socialism work
He should be more worried about what his precious America will do to prevent that Chinese century. It won’t be pretty for the rest of us
At the end, the Soviet Union had enough nukes to wipe out all mammalian life on the planet (and that’s a conservative estimate). But when they finaly collapsed, there was no vindictive strike. Nobody tried to close the book on human history.
In the same position, could the United States ever do the same, when it’s own end comes knocking?
The soviets were the good guys so that makes sense.
I think the US is led by people who are a lot more vindictive though
Musk ans Trump would totally wipe the earth if they think they’re going to be better after that
The United States and the USSR both endured(/ing) what could vaguely be described as an Oligarchic coup, which IMO are not likely scenarios to result in a vindictive nuclear first-strike. They are both still imperial powers and too far away for direct conflict. Continuing the dance of proxy wars is still preferable to any nuclear exchange. There are not any countries that are likely to put the US into a China/Taiwan or Russia/Ukraine situation, so the US will probably continue to decline/collapse without the likelyhood of a vindictive nuclear first-strike.
I do have to admit, Trump is a bit of a wild-card, so he might do one anyways, but the ruling class itself would not be interested.
I think the bigger threat would be from whatever military figure happens to be standing next to the button in the aftermath of an all-at-once collapse of legitimacy. I’ve heard stories that evangelical types anxious for apocalypse and rapture like getting assigned to nuclear silos… while I’m not sure how accurate that is, the thought gives me pause.
The current oligarchs? Possibly. Plus I just don’t see American power and wealth decline in a significant way anytime soon legitimately althought the material conditions for the average americans will… But they sure will perceive that their power is declining and idk tbh these people are spite filled. Not thinking in terms of nukes but other means of fuckery
Idk but Hitler probably would have and unfortunately he is not unique
China’s missing middle class hahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahaYou are not going to win if your perception of your enemy is completely fictional!!
Arguably, China has a middle class - a group of people who have some access to means and power, people who aren’t workers and yet aren’t at the top either. China’s middle class is the capitalists.
Middle class is just defined through income. Well-off wage laborers. China has one!
Today, for the most part, yeah. It’s a pretty meaningless distinction. But it used to actually mean something.
In the early modern period, it was used to describe people who were born peasants, yet had wealth and power to rival the nobility through - that’s right, you guessed it - owning the means of production. “Middle Class” used to be a derisive term the aristocrats used for capitalists. If you presented the modern world to them, they’d say that we were ruled by the middle class – and not in the cutesy way a liberal would mean.
It’s about the size of the EU’s population
Does he not realize he just described current America?
the political economy understander has logged on
China under the CPC has never had a recession but this jackass “knows” that growth will stagnate
liberal revolution
that’s when people peacefully march in pink hats, right?
i thought it was when they start burning unarmed soldiers alive
Chai Ling does live in the US and is probably available!
the 80s really are back
The joys of refederation
We are 1/4 century in and europe is neither unified or militarized, the EU century isnt happening but that wont stop Eurolibs from coping
You can trace the EU back to the 1952 coal and steel common market agreement. Hell, the EU does this, EU day is on the day that one was signed, not the actual EU. And it’ll always be that, at heart.
I also think one of the funnier facts about the EU is that all its greatest fans constantly tout the Schengen Agreement as this grand thing, dissolving borders and such. And it is cool, don’t get me wrong, but it also predates the actual EU and isn’t actually linked to the EU.
Flushing your social democracy remnants to make mudpies will make europe great again, it is known
This is white cope
To their white surprise
The facism-o-meter going hard in Europe, the libs: THE EU CENTURY IS COMING.
Whomp whomp. EU wont do shit
I really hope he’s right
Yes, when Europe militarizes it’s always been for the benefit of the world. Especially when they’re facing a deep economic crisis.
FEDERATION SLOP IS BACK ON THE MENU, PIGGIES
yeah, we are so back, this thread is awesome :D
Why?
Because it sounds a lot better than a Chinese century
Imagine a world without a white supremacist hegemonic power
I’d be happy with a world without a white supremacist hegemonic power, but I don’t think if China were to be the worlds only superpower we’d live in a better world.
Currently the world’s superpowers are committing a second Holocaust in Gaza. It’s possible that 500,000 are dead (population was 2.1m before genocide began, Trump said there’s 1.6m in Gaza when negotiating with Israel). The EU is just as complicit in this genocide as the US. That’s just what’s happening now, one of many American atrocities.
With that in mind: what has China ever done in history to make you so much more scared of them?
Why would anyone chose Euros over china?! China has never ever meddle in other countries shit - in fact it was other people who invaded, ruled and then expanded china.
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I don’t disagree that EU and US do terrible things across all over the world. Palestinian genocide is a good example of why the world would be better off if it isn’t ruled by either the US or the EU. But these horrible things will continue to happen without one, two or three global superpower. It’s not like UN is really able to make a difference. The reason I’m more scared for China is not of how they have treated the people in other countries, but how they treat their own people. Do you have an example of how China helped a nation or people in a way that is western countries haven’t?
I’d be happy with a world without a white supremacist hegemonic power
yeah you people always claim you’d like it if things were better while mysteriously opposing all existing pathways for things to actually get better
Your fear is straight up just racist and not based on anything historical, let alone based on any realities of the Chinese system
Because China has invaded over 50 countries since the end of WW2? Or was that another super power…
You don’t understand, China’s going to invade Taiwan any day now! It doesn’t matter that we’ve been saying that for decades, it’s so certain that we don’t even need to treat it as hypothetical!
(I have had a lib unironically tell me this)
It helps that China’s economy isn’t entirely propped up by weapons manufacturing lmao
I do not understand how people can look at the past hundred years or so and think China would unleash anything like the sickening horror on the entire globe that the west has built itself on.
I don’t see how you can see the persecution of Uyghurs and the forced assimilation of Xinjiang and expect China to do any better. Genocide is genocide.
Why?
Hmm well it’s interesting you should say that as German and British weapons vaporize Palestinian families. I wonder why you put your hope in that and not China?
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A lot of people are calling you out over the Uyghur nonsense but this kind of thinking:
I’d rather be a German or Brit and be profiting from Palestinian families being vaporized than be one of those vaporized families. Do think it would be much much better if no family was vaporized.
Is the absolute most monstrous thing that you could be saying. Seriously, imagine saying this about Jews being gassed in the Holocaust, or Black people being enslaved in the Atlantic slave trade. Your wishful thinking means nothing if you’re so caught up in the ideology that makes you think Chinese people will treat you the way your disgusting imperialist states have treated the third world for centuries. Thanks be to God that the world isn’t only populated by settlers who can only imagine things working out as dominators and dominated.
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how Uyghur families are being treated
you can look at Gaza and still hide behind this bullshit? fuck you
educate yourself and stop repeating CIA propaganda that validates your racist worldviewhttps://redsails.org/the-xinjiang-atrocity-propaganda-blitz/
do you even know who Adrian Zenz is you ignorant fuck
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Oh damn, people still believe in the Social Credit Scores and Uyghur Genocide nonsense?
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how the state suppresses their people with a social credit system
bringing out all the bullshit hits. you aren’t dumb. you believe this absurd shit because you are a racist
The white supremacist’s greatest fear is that they will be treated as harshly as they have treated others. So they must invent and imagine brutality to fear, justifying their subscription to continued ethnic cleansing against no-whites.
You need reeducation.
I dream of the camps… one day…
suicide
I’m sure you care a lot about Occupied Korea’s suicide rate too and aren’t just using this bullshit to pretend to care about workers
Or like Lithuania’s highest suicide rate in world.
How can you continue to cling onto the fake ass “Uyghur genocide” when we can look at the infinite horrors coming out of Gaza every fucking day. You’re really going to put that on the same level as some bullshit made up by a religious fanatic fascist who doesn’t even speak Chinese? One who can’t provide even a single shred of evidence for his claims? Do you even know who Adrian Zenz is? God damn this shit is straight up disgusting. Anyway we already knew all this about the depth of your opinions which is why I called you out for brainworms + racism before you even said anything else.
how the state suppresses their people with a social credit system
Lmao. The “social credit system” which literally never existed and even western media admitted was a misunderstanding (there was a credit system in place for scoring businesses which failed to pay debts in time). All the while in the capitalist-imperialist countries, one’s financial credit score determines their ability to buy a house or car.
This level of arrogant-ignorance is something you can only find amongst true Europeans. Even Americans are known to be more critical of their propaganda narratives.
So you’re a selfish monster. No surprise there. Stick your head in a puddle until the bubbles stop
You deserve to be drawn and quartered
Took you long enough to say Uyghur
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Want to elaborate on that or should we assume the standard mix of brainworms and racism?
I agree, Chinese Century doesn’t sound good at all. Chinese Millenium sounds better.
No the fuck it doesn’t.
Why?
No it doesn’t.
吃屎白鬼
why?
Why?
New york Crimes bestseller:
‘‘1 trillion Chinese.’’
soon hitting the shelves
This is just him finally coming to terms with his billion Americans idea being a dud
All that raw sex for nothing
😔
Well I wouldn’t say for nothing 'ey captain?
Can’t believe he quit on the idea just as Elon got his USPS Click-N-Ship account set up
This presupposes that Matty has ever had a good idea and that he can tell them apart
Oh he probably still thinks it’s a good idea he just finally has come to terms with the fact that nobody gave a shit about it.
fuck…china is in trouble
早就被表情包化了
but he is always wrong, socialize delivery apps, mr. xi, before it’s too lateMeanwhile America gets the century of humiliation. MAGA is basically Taiping.
Taiping were weirdos but actually a historically progressive force, they wanted to end slavery/serfdom, and various other things.
Chinese Marianne Williamson
Look I thought it was weird when she said she was Jesus Christ’s “little sister” but I liked it when she abolished foot binding.
that’s actually not a good comparison, Taiping has done more than any recent presidential candidates dream of doing
Can someone smarter than me tell me if I should be worried about the Chinese century as an American? I’m just hoping to get a good deal on one of those byd cars eventually lol
Yes you should be. China’s going to be making lunar and orbital bases and cities and having huge parties they won’t invite you to unless you know the super secret handshake which you only learn after reading Das Kapital in its entirety.
I’m sorry comrade, I know this is a bitter pill to swallow 😔
Orbital bases and parties I’m not invited too are fine but I draw the line at actually reading theory 😤😤😤 /s
My only respite from this agony is knowing that as a leftist I only have to finish reading Capital. I heard they’re going to make the reactionaries that survive read Hegel in the original German too. Granted a decent percentage of them will already know German but as I hear it even Germans prefer the English translations.
Why would marx ever want that? He wrote das kapital for the masses to understand learn from. Hegel can be valuable to read in the native language if you want a closer representation of continental philosophy. Its still difficult because its in older german, I read schiller in higher education and most people flunk out and did not understand a thing - and we were all native speakers.
Marx was allegedly really bad at writing and actually publishing his own thoughts, and he got shit done only thanks to his wife Jenny von Westphalen and his husband Fred Engels
Yes ADHD coded I remember.
I mean for my part I’m just totally joking. I think it’s all valuable to read when you have the time. I’ll make my jokes about linen here and there, but the last English translation I read of capital was a bit verbose and dated and I think a good bit of praxis would be to simplify it even more for people.
Well it was translated by trots. But its true, it should be made more modernized in its language.
Well it was translated by trots.
Ah, that explains it.
Oh so I can read it instead of learning Chinese??? 😂
The Chinese aren’t going to be the problem. It will be the American ruling class (and their supporters) that will go deeply reactionary as their global power slips into Chinese hands.
- In the near term, a lot of products will become more expensive (tariffs, manufactured overseas, etc) as waning American global hegemony no longer can use it’s power to keep foreign countries exports inexpensive. Chocolate and Coffee are a preview of coming attractions.
- Longer term the US might no longer be seen as a place for International Students and workers. They might go to China instead to study and get jobs. US Citizens might choose to study/work in China too, causing a brain and talent drain from the US.
- It will be foreign policy where the “Chinese Century” will be felt most directly as they become the new global hegemon. You can already see how this works with their “Belt and Road” initiatives as they now have sizable trade partners around the globe. It also slots well with the overall Chinese strategy of building infrastructure. It also circumvents the US trade hegemony.
- The Yuan becomes a serious contender for the worldwide Reserve Currency as trade with China booms. This replaces the dominance of the Petrodollar, and is an existential threat to both US soft and hard power.
- It cripples the US’s ability to unilaterally sanction anybody out of US banking, thus becoming increasingly powerless.
- It also makes the US’s ability to constantly run deficits much harder as US bonds aren’t sold.
- Harder to raise deficits to support the US military as it takes up the most of the Federal budget.
- Expect drastic cuts (like DOGE :melon-musk:) to make way for the military spending to…
- …prop up the fading global influence militarily, like invading Canada/Greenland
- Of everything here this will trigger the largest and deepest period of Reaction because the consequences hit everybody, from the Military, to Politicians and their bureaucracies, Capitalists and their companies, and finally regular
Americans.
what does this mean for my treats
The treats won’t flow and they’ll cost a pretty penny
:miyazaki-laugh: You will have fewer treats then, but they will be richer ones!
be VERY afraid. under evil chinese dictatorial rule they WILL force you not to be stinky anymore
Noooooooooo!!! Anything but my stink 😭😭😭
but da dank moe
The worrying part is what a declining empire will do as it inevitably falls
The US, being the fascist empire it is, will take much of the globe down with it.
No it won’t, it’s already too weak.
From the Chinese? No. From the US/collective west? Very much yes. Our world has not yet experienced an empire falling and being replaced by another empire* in the nuclear age.
*At least not unfriendly empires. The British/French empires would absolutely supplanted by US post WW2 hegemony but as the US was a white supremacist power like them it was more like handing it off to a relative than losing it to a total stranger which is how the racist rage will regard China taking first place. Additionally the interests of the European bourgeoisie were harmonized with US interests. The US in fact saved them from socialism by occupying western Europe and suppressing communists rather than what would have happened had the USSR won all on its own in Europe and then let them have buy-in. Though the Chinese have given western bourgeoisie some buy-in they have zero power unlike in the aftermath of the Europe to US empire transition.
If they treat the world like the US did during its century, probably, but so far that doesn’t seem to be the case. They don’t have military bases spread all around the world, they haven’t dropped a single bomb, they have businesses and loans they give out but they don’t force you to have a certain political or economic system (unlike the West which gives their loans with requirements for austerity attached).
I think the only issue is that they seem to be over correcting and are too uninvolved with other countries. So it will probably be fine lol.
China has never been an international active state, the height was demanding tribute from Indonesia. America in fact was expanonist since its inception. The founding fathers already said “oh one day we will rule all of the americas”, like calm down.
They helped Korea which was nice. And I think Vietnam.
And Cambodia, unfortunately.
Thats not really international active.
Depends on if the US escalates to millitary conflict with the PRC or not.
Read somewhere that the dollar being the de facto international currency gave Americans like 30% in purchase power or something like this.
