KuroXppi [they/them]

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  • I wish I knew how to cross post ,I would’ve cross posted to chapo trap house

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  • One good trick is that the majority of alveolar sounds in English are actually made closer to a position just behind the teeth in Chinese. In phonetics this is a ‘denti-alveolar’ sound.

    So for example the d in 但是danshi is made by holding the tip of your tongue behind the top row of your teeth, then letting the pressure release. It is /not/ made on or behind the alveolar ridge*

    For these sounds too, you do not need to engage your vocal chords to make the characteristic added ‘rumble’ or ‘weight’ of an English d sound. This means it is an ‘unvoiced’ sound.

    These two aspects (tongue position, voicing) differentiate the English /d/ from the Chinese one, and are what is likely responsible for the thickness/heaviness of your accent.

    (*if you run your tongue along the roof of your mouth, the alveolar ridge is the ridge line about a cm behind the teeth, before it hits the hard palate as you make your way to the back of the throat).

    You can learn more about Chinese phonetics at the wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Chinese_phonology

    And to answer your second question, no, you will still be largely intelligible if you consistently use English sounds in the place of their Chinese counterparts.

    The ones to look out for English background speakers (if applicable) are the sh of shi and the x of xi as the latter doesn’t exist in English really for most speakers, and Eng speakers may use the same sound for both. The other is zh of zhang and j of jiang for the same reason. The quickest trick to get the x and j sounds down is to start with the tip of the tongue behind the bottom teeth and feel how the bulk of your tongue is pressed towards the alveolar ridge. For the x sound, you slowly hiss air through that small gap. For the j you let the pressure build and then release.