Jabril [none/use name]

Wealth is one factor but removing the social and cultural context doesn’t do any favors. It isn’t just wealth that indicates someone’s relationship to capital, and in the imperial core even people who make less than a person outside the core have access to certain luxuries and treats and ideological crutches that keep them yoked to imperialism. People are addicted to treats and ideas here that do not plague other places, they have no national identity, they have no relationship with their neighbors and no reason to have them. Of course we can say that all people will benefit from redistribution of wealth, even wealthy people since it will resolve the existential threat they too face from issues like climate change, but it is not enough to explain who will be interested in overthrowing imperialism and why

It really felt like the perfect choice, I stand by it!

Half the people not voting has nothing to do with the material reality that those same people benefit from imperialism and an economic incentive to keep it going. It is a false assumption to say that because they didn’t vote, they must have some revolutionary potential just waiting to be activated. They are part of a global labor aristocracy and will not do anything more than fight for the gains that improve their own lives, which come directly from exploiting other people. Until those benefits are removed through economic collapse and are no longer affordable for the ruling class, the labor aristocracy will continue and they will not go out of their way to end that privilege

Reread what I said and try again

Over half the nation who voted chose for Trump and the other half chose Harris - these people need imperialism and will not give it up until the conditions get so bad due to economic collapse that they aren’t getting the benefits of imperialism anymore

Yeah I’m way passed the point where I would listen to anything either of these men have to say. Hudson posts his work on a Nazi site and Wolff isn’t useful once you’ve read Lenin and realize empowering workers through workplace democracy within capitalism creates a labor aristocracy who gains more from maintaining capitalism than they do from defeating it

I think you are correct that if they aren’t in the camp mentioned by Nakoichi, they are in the camp of “getting all our enemies together in a single ethnostates makes them easier to conquer”

I’m not reading the thread but being in favor of communism works in theory, but in practice (lol) all these settlers will actually lose their quality of life if we were to have a revolution since we would have to dismantle imperialism and the benefits it provides. Few westerners are going to accept that, and so they will choose the treat button 9/10 times. Revolution happens in places where they have nothing to lose but their chains, but losing brunch and U2 at the Vegas sphere is not gonna fly

Yes and the senate and house and presidency, if only the were truly pro worker, would be great for labor. It’s almost if we live in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and the state is a tool of the ruling class to oppress the working class or something

Again, the NLRB affects 10% of workers, it is already meaningless to the most marginalized and oppressed workers; to nearly every worker. The union itself should be the organizational power, but the NLRB means they the power rests in a government body instead of the workers themself. What power did workers have before the NLRB? Considering it was their power that forced the government to create the NLRB in response, obviously it was a lot. The idea that anyone is rooting for this in hopes of it helping is naive and misguided, the point is that it is happening anyway and contradictions are getting sharper for many reasons, this being one of them. That is happening and we need to incorporate that into our analysis and be prepared to organize with that reality in mind

Wouldn’t the expectation be that generations of workers are getting better educated and over qualified for factory jobs? I don’t think this is a problem for Chinese workers in the same way it would be for America if they still had factories

Okay so the neoliberal union machine run by the US government that represents 10% of workers will be disbanded, and then workers will have to break the law to get what they want? This is bad because we respect the law and think that unions should be yoked by the US government? This is bad because the workers with the largest concessions afforded by the US government will lose those concessions and no longer have an economic incentive to maintain the status quo? Do we not like wildcat strikes? What is your critique here?

Things are accelerating, contradictions are sharpening, the economy is crumbling and fascism is on the rise. Are we not allowed to have an honest analysis of the situation? Is that accelerationism? The treat factory is ending, inshallah, and the treat addled mind along with it. When people awaken from this haze and realize they are gonna have to break the law to survive, maybe they will actually join with the rest of us who have been living this way the whole time. Maybe instead of wishing to protect the institutional systems designed to destroy the labor movement, we should celebrate their downfall and the downfall of all of the institutions that keep the neoliberal fantasy alive. We are entering the best period for revolutionary organizing since the 60’s and, as always, it is because the conditions have gotten bad enough that people will do something that would have been previously too uncomfortable. I did not organize for this to happen, nothing I did or thought accelerated this situation into being, but this has obviously been where we are going for a long time and now we are here.

Labor’s Untold Story does a decent job covering it and the later Taft-Hartley act within the scope of the US labor movement

NLRB was an essential part of the destruction of the working class movements that preceded it. If unions are no longer regulated by the US government, they can exert more pressure in more effective ways.

Literally no other way democracy can really take hold

Absolutely, I think a bit part of the long term Ukraine strategy is funneling Ukrainian Nazis into US and EU to radicalize and train domestic fascists. They were even on the ground in Hong Kong doing training during the the protests there.

A lot of Latinos are white tho I’m surprised I haven’t seen more people pointing this out with all the recent rhetoric around who voted for Trump.

I think Fanon is more compelling and providing material evidence whereas settlers wasn’t saying anything I hadn’t already gathered from studying other works, Fanon especially

Not even just settlers, plenty of Black folks coming out with similar takes about Palestinians and Arabs, someone posted abunch of screenshots of comments about buying Starbucks and not feeling guilty about funding the genocide because Arab voters didn’t get Kamala in office. The settlerfication has taken root deep into even colonized subjects, not even just the bourgeois comprador strata as it was when Fanon was writing about them.

Sure dm me any questions.

They get guest writers who are not involved in their actual organization who sometimes have good takes and most likely have no idea who they are submitting to so might be the case irt the Austin situation.

But I will say beyond that, it is easy to write good takes and harder to live by them or follow through with them. They might be able to repeat good lines on something like settler colonialism but it doesn’t mean they have killed the settler within or ever intend to