• FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I mean, it wouldn’t have happened if it was treated as an actual somber moment instead of a star-spangled spit-shine that ended up in two wars and millions of innocent people killed and injured, and marked the point for most kids that nothing was ever going to be good again!

    So yeah

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    I won a lot of free popularity points by letting kids vent about the silly performative PATRIOT DAY bullshit going on around them and even muttered a glib “nevar forget” pronounced exactly that way, letting them know I was tired of that shit too in a plausibly deniable way (administration would lose their shit if I didn’t seem “patriotic” enough otherwise).

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    Thanks, I replied to that thread with this:

    My friend.

    These kids grew up watching a weekly to daily 9/11 happening around them, in the form of 7 million global deaths from COVID, treated again and again as a total joke. Half the population essentially won’t even admit it’s real, and even the people who admit it’s real tend to have not taken it very seriously at all.

    They were constantly threatened for a huge part of their childhood, a lot of them have dead relatives including dead parents, and it’s still doing a 9/11 a month just in the US. And 75% of the ones with dead parents gave COVID to their parents because they were forced into a goddamn classroom.

    How could they take this seriously? Ask yourself, what makes you feel somber about it- is it the number of deaths? No of course it’s not the number of deaths - so what is it? Could it be that you absorbed a cultural phenomenon over the last 22 years that they weren’t exposed to? Don’t you think maybe you were acculturated into tearing up and saluting so you’d maybe get thirsty for the blood of innocent Muslims?

    Not to mention it happened before they were born. You don’t give a shit about the Boxer Rebellion, that doesn’t make you cry. So why would they care about this overused blip on the radar?

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        to be fair thats what all of the previous generations did

        (the ones affluent and influentual enough culturally to be the guiding force for the times, of course)

        Im too lazy to find it but that one whiney ass fucking article some loser wrote in like 1820 about how “kids these days are too busy reading dang ol BOOKS to LOOK OUT THE DAMN WINDOW like we did in our day!” and the way he talks about it is like every fucking white 54 year old complaining about anything ever

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    an adult who’s still choked up about 9/11… just when I think I understand Americans. like 60% of their ideology and culture and way of life depends on not giving a shit about 1) historical events that happened in the past, 2) stuff that happened “over there”- and for most of the country New York/DC is “over there”. honestly

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    I never lived in USA and it feels weird for me to joke around other country’s tragic event.

    That being said, (dark) comedy is a common way of facing tragedy and I also can see why many USA citizens are desensitized on this event. For what I can grasp the reaction was so overly exaggerated that people have had enough.

    Don’t get me wrong: it was a tragedy, but it’s silly to expect everyone to feel personally affected to THAT level even after decades (and most without even knowing one of the victims).

    I’m pretty sure that even in that year many citizens might have moved on kinda soon and didn’t care THAT much, but would keep quiet to avoid drama. At some point the edgy comedians made people realize not caring THAT much was pretty common and even the kids started openly joking about it.

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      I think there is an additional dissonance considering the US let a million+ and more of its own citizens die from Covid but we still commemorate the victims of 9/11 as the greatest evil done to the country in recent memory. (That’s how I also know Americans don’t really believe the claims against China being the origin, producer, and disseminator of the pandemic)