• a friend of mine was telling me about some friend of his who went to grad school in China right after college. i dunno if it was even tech, but he had studied mandarin in undergrad.

    his first several years, he would comeback for the holidays and big family stuff. then he got some job there. over the years he would return less and less, until eventually he just stopped coming back to the US.

    can you imagine? it sounds like something out of a fairy tale.

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    The West has been poaching talents from the Global South since the past century, luring them with strong currencies like the dollar and euro, and at the same time still manage to use them to drive down the wages of domestic labor because immigrant workers are willing to work much harder at a lesser pay that is still relatively lucrative compared to their home country’s salary.

    Global South countries have spent innumerable resources and decades of effort to cultivate their best and brightest youth and gifted them scholarships to study overseas at top universities in the West. Many of them would get job offers in Western companies and chose to stay there. The West gets to poach all these talents at virtually no cost.

    Make no mistake, this is a form of financial imperialism - the use of its strong currency to create brain drains in the Global South, which further impedes the latter’s ability to develop their own technological and economic sovereignty.

    Every year, nearly 600-700k Chinese students go abroad to study in the US alone, and many of them hoping to get their green cards eventually and living out an American dream. If it weren’t for the blatant racism and forcing more and more Chinese students and workers to return from overseas, it would have been a brain drain on China’s part, to the benefit of the American empire!

    EDIT: as pointed out below, 600-700k is the number of all Chinese students who went overseas every year. The peak in US was ~370k in 2020, then after COVID dropped to ~260k in 2023.

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      Your number of Chinese students that go to the U$ does not match the info I can find, most stuff I see says ~280k/year. There has been a pretty large drop over the past few years, and the number peaked before COVID. This drop in students has caused funding issues for U$ universities, as foreign students pay a lot more in tuition than domestic ones.

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        You are correct. The 600-700k is the number of Chinese students who went overseas, not just in the US. It’s also dropped in the US as you said, before COVID it was ~370k students who went to the US in 2020.

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        pretty large drop over the past few years

        Yeah the unis in my country are having a big cry about it because they spent the last 20 years increasing executive salaries and not doing much else so without the constant and growing cashflow they’re kind of fucked.

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      Also don’t forget the US (the entire Imperial Core, really) make conditions in the Global South unsafe, forcing people to migrate the only place that’s safe: the Global North. Then they gatekeep and only let the wealthy or educated in.

      They exterminate the underclass while siphoning capital and brain power, making the situation worse in a feedback loop. Isreal has the same strategy to try and force Jews into moving there. Spread antisemitism abroad, then claim to be the only safe place for Jews.

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    cap-think : “Whoa…I’m richer than ever…I have been having the best past five years of my life! I think…I think…”

    capitalist-laugh: “I’ll fire everyone and have those that remain pick up the slack, clearly I don’t need so many workers!”

    xi-god-emperor: “Hello western tech workers, did you get burned by porky? Here, come work with us.”

    porky-scared-flipped: “Whoa whoa whoa…that’s MY reserve army of labor to sit on and do nothing with!”

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    i request bombardment by job offer, yes on my position please. danger close is a risk im willing to take

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    Surely, this is just a case where the invisible hand of the free market will be trusted to solve this issue without any intervention from Western governments and those aligned with them, no?

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    I don’t have any marketable skills but you could hire me as a western jester. If you tell me to dance like a monkey I’ll do it. Please China, please 🥺

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      If you tell me to dance like a monkey I’ll do it.

      Can you afford to get there on a tourist visa? I forget the name for “white monkey” jobs but there’s an industry (and I think still demand) for sure. Also just about any university qualification can get you an English teaching job in a bunch of actually-existing-communism countries still. I know that’s out of reach for most people but fuck it, if you leave after graduation who’s gonna try and debt collect the loans? lol

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    Staff with access to sensitive Zeiss know-how received LinkedIn messages, emails and calls from Huawei representatives, offering them up to three times their salaries to join the Chinese company, according to people with knowledge of the situation.

    3x? LOL ok if they came to me with that id be willing to degrade myself for the position. xi pls