I announce that his folk hero status has now been revoked.
Just another jilted alt right dude who was fine when he thought the system was for him and then got burned and lashed out.
No praxis, only edge and entitlement.
My authority to decide this? None, don’t @ me.
On the one hand he killed a ceo.
On the other he’s a retvrn chud.
But on the other hand it was a health insurance ceo.
But then he’s praising Elon Musk.
But he raised class conscious among the working poor of the USA.
Yeah but the Elon shit.
If this guy ends up being the role model for the USA’s working poor, I worry what conclusions they’ll draw…
Sent from Mdewakanton Dakota lands / Sept. 29 1837
Treaty with the Sioux of September 29th, 1837
“We Will Talk of Nothing Else”: Dakota Interpretations of the Treaty of 1837
Yeaaah like it’s not class consciousness if it’s just angry white men spitting their dummy’s out and lashing out.
tbh I’m just going with the assumption that even the working poor in the USA are cooked and have brainworms. Embrace the doomer I guess.
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idk, seems pretty clear to me. They’re terrible opinions but they have little material impact
The biggest clue he was not a yankee leftist was that he actually did something
Lmao absolutely roasted
Much better I think to emphasize the CEO in all this. A ‘hero’ can turn out to be a wet fart with incoherent beliefs, but a dead enemy is an unmistakable win and an unambiguous threat.
Nobody better be sad about a dead CEO
that’s just lib shitEmphasize not empathize, no one is empathic to the CEO
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I believe in separating the art from the artist.
I refuse this notion as that’s what a lot of Harry Potter fans say to justify their bullshit.
They are the bad takes haver after all
Guess what he rated as 5 stars on good reads :-)
LMAO! Wonder what his opinion on Fight Club is 😂
No way lol
It’s locked down now, but this is a screenshot I managed to grab chatting with a friend (unfortunately doesn’t have provenance attached so you’ll have to trust me).
I guess this is what happens the second they read another book.
Hilarious, thank you
Uh aktually, the first three Harry Potter books are good for what they are.
absolutely, this is just the one exception
Except death of the author doesn’t make sense with Harry Potter because Rowling’s worldview drips from those fucking books.
That’s not what death of the author is about
Death of the author doesn’t make any sense for anything. The art is created by the artist, imo it’s inseparable.
Thats bad art with or without jk ratfuck
Never read the books or watched the movies but something about the protrayal of the goblins rubbed me the wrong way.
The weirdest one for me is the guy who wrote Altered Carbon. Who is a transphobic centrist who wrote three books about how transhumanist Maoists are cool and good (apparently wasn’t his intention).
Being a centrist usually requires a ton of “communism bad” brainworms and being a transphobe always requires a ton of patriarchal brainworms. Neither of these are opinions you arrive at rationally, they are the result of people taking a wrong intellectual turn due to indoctrination, and both of these wrong turns can be found among all kinds of people, even those who in theory agree that Maoist goals and bodily autonomy are cool and good. These people will only agree these principles are cool and good as long as they are not exposed to the socially ingrained triggers of their fears, like a crowd of workers waving red banners, or people transing their gender.
On brand
Chuds really ruined that phrase, for sure. It’s for shaking your head while reading Mists of Avalon on the bus, not cosplaying as a fascist kid wizard.
shaking your head while reading Mists of Avalon
That was 100% my reaction when I was reading that and in a world of Lothars and Morgaines and Taleisins we are introduced to a guy named “Kevin.”
If right wing gun bros want to go all Apocalypse Now on American CEOs.
I’ll be over here grillin’ and chillin’.
Let em 👏
Not gunna cry about less CEOs lmao
I’m just gonna put some gripes with other posts/comments I’ve seen today here. Luigi is clearly not “still a good guy” like many on here seems to be suggesting lol. some guy who thinks “wokeness” is evil or whatever is not my comrade, regardless of how many CEOs he has killed. also saying this is “praxis” betrays a complete lack of understanding/refusal to apply theory. something that seems to go out the window when a fun (not denying that) rupture like this happens.
It makes me uncomfortable that people can just ignore his ideology, and ideology that is abjectly killing minorities as we speak and propagating within white reactionary men, just cos he killed a ceo.
Like killing the ceo IS funny. It was a good bit.
But when I see stuff like what you’ve quoted it makes me think that yeah users here probably didn’t make the same connection we are making, but by saying “still a good guy” it’s like ermmm what about the fact his ideology will include the erasure or even eradication of people on this site? This dude does not like women or queer people let’s be clear. But that’s fine if he kills the right people as he is “still a good guy”?!?!?! Make that make sense.
I don’t think people mean to do that but when you are a person this guy would opress It’s gross to see him characterised as still positive despite his beliefs.
Like people need to get that good act doesn’t equate to good guy. It’s so childish.
It makes me uncomfortable that people can just ignore ideology that is abjectly killing minorities as we speak and propagating just cos he killed a ceo.
i agree, I think it’s a very privileged way to act. “willing to murder CEOs” is quite low on the list of desired qualities in potential comrades, not being an anti-wokeness lunatic is significantly more important lol.
Like people need to get that good act doesn’t equate to good guy. It’s so childish.
totally, i think painting the killing in hindsight as some ultimate moral act that absolves him of being a right wing culture warrior is an extremely regressive way of looking at morality to say the least.
I think it’s a very privileged way to act.
Many such cases.
Honestly thank you for commenting, I was feeling a bit uncomfortable and grossed out so knowing I’m not the only one vibing this makes me feel a lot better
I saw something on here maybe a while back while lurking and it was something like “I need to be able to trust the person next to me in a protest with my life and if they are a patsoc how am I supposed to do that?”
And like FR!!! I wouldn’t trust any socialist who said the shooter was “still a good guy” or apologised for his ideology in a protest next to me because they’ve already admitted my rights and existence as a women come second to a frankly matterless (in hindsight) “victory”.
“We will sort womens/minority etc rights out when we’ve got class consiousness”
Not if we are all dead before that happens.
That’s an extreme example obviously but it takes extreme mental gymnastics to see this guy as a hero still after seeing his ideology and motives sooooooo lmao.
I dunno I don’t think people saying he’s a good guy even realise they are coming across like that but that’s the privileged innit, being able to just forget others struggle when it’s convenient and they are excited.
“We will sort womens/minority etc rights out when we’ve got class consiousness”
i think you completely hit the nail on the head here. it’s a 20th century mindset (19th century even, lol) that just uncritically carries on the shortcomings of the old masters. non-dialectical! a communism, a Marxism for our time has to uphold queer liberation, feminism, racial justice, etc. as non-negotiable aspects. then again many western leftists (thankfully not too many on this website) still struggle with such basic aspects as anti-imperialism that have been hashed out pretty solidly for 100 years or so!
Literally!!! Aaaaaa I had this out with someone else and like marx just forgot about women. Like they had some good ideas and formed the basis but that was a fucking century ago!!! We need to build in that and address areas they just failed in. E.g. women.
Calliban and the witch
Socialism in 2024 isn’t socialism if it doesn’t have intersectionality as the backbone of its ideals and people on here blates haven’t internalised that.
yeah even real ones like Lenin and Connolly seem so stunted when you hear them speak about women. I guess mostly men are still like that. Lenin to be fair was ahead of his time at least in an academic way wrt feminism. but still a 20th century guy ultimately. Stalin… not his finest area to say the least.
Aaaaaa preach, like Lenin and his views towards homosexuality as well and being a Rosa stan. It’s that lack of lived experience imo, people can’t internalise the concepts if they are a he/him because how the patriarchy relates to them and oppresses them is fundamentally different. I think people like Lenin are the example where the man DID listen and that says it all.
You took the words right out of my mouth. And this wasn’t just some wacky beliefs like some believe it to be. This shit isn’t wacky to the marginalized people it hurts
Sorry, are we just all taking the cops word for it? A group of class traitors, known for lying and false arrests? No, they saw this guy on a security camera, and decided to frame someone so their billionaire bosses would feel contempt. I’m not believing anything from the cops mouths.
But if this is the guy, maybe more right wing chuds will shoot CEOs. Two birds with one stone kinda thing. No one loses here.
I do not believe this shit in the slightest. This was clearly a planned shooting and the Adjuster put actual effort into evading the police, you’re telling me he just went out to McDonalds a week later in the exact same outfit, conveniently carrying all the evidence the cops need including an anti-health insurance manifesto and the actual fucking weapon and fake ID he used to commit the crime? lol.
Exactly where I am. Surprised so many people here are accepting anything coming from the pigs.
Okay but I would still like it if every chud with a grudge and a gun killed a CEO instead of their usual targets
yeah i guess we’ll wait to hear from him, his lawyer, or whatever.
his last tweet was in the summer i really doubt he became an ideologically committed anti-capitalist in less then 6 mos and kept it to himself
so yeah revoked. i knew i would be disappointed.
honestly would have been cooler if he was just extremely apolitical but only posted about how the insurance industry sucked
honestly would have been cooler if he was just extremely apolitical but only posted about how the insurance industry sucked
If it had been just that then I’d agree this might be a moment of budding class consciousness and a chance for a bigger and productive conversation about our system leading to at the very least maybe some sort of reform that’s not just performative ineffective rubbish. At least something that isn’t just the same system chugging along.
But it wasn’t
He was still a net positive for the world at least
Nah, there’s ways this can actually turn out for the worse. In the grand scheme of things, 1 regenerative Bouge enemy down means nothing if this kid can be used to prop up right wing rhetoric.
Honestly, this might actually be worst case scenario.
I’m already scared that might happen. Right now he’s radicalizing Ben Shapiro comment sections, I don’t want the right to have this guy.
Problematic fave
Is what he did rad as fuck? Absolutely.
Is Luigi himself based? No.
I’ll admit this one stings. I so wanted a comrade folk hero named Luigi.
Saaaaaaaaaaame I was so stoked but reality is here to ruin all our fun.
Time for us to put our big person pants on and be like
The guy did the funniest bit this week. That’s it.
I wanted the shooter to disappear. No manifesto. No politics. An anonymous shooter represents everyone.
Thompson’s still full of lead
i agree with you. though i am of the opinion it would probably have been bad if the guy turned out to be like “I did this to further the cause of Marxism-Leninism”. i don’t really understand why people were hoping for that. and i think people are still trying to glaze him on here a bit much like we can just admit he is a rwnj he doesn’t have to be a good person for it to be funny or whatever
Yeah, if someone like this turns out to be a left-wing radical, it’ll be used to justify crackdowns on leftists, if someone like this turns out to be a right-wing radical, it’ll legitimize rightism as “the voice of the people”. There’s really a pretty narrow range of opinions I was necessarily hoping this guy had.
Sent from Mdewakanton Dakota lands / Sept. 29 1837
Treaty with the Sioux of September 29th, 1837
“We Will Talk of Nothing Else”: Dakota Interpretations of the Treaty of 1837
Maybe to try and provoke conversation around socialism etc and demistify it? I’m not sure lol. Standard water cooler conversation topic hours.
just saw a post fully dismissing out of hand the shooter’s ideology as “weird shit and wacky opinions” to assure everyone that it’s ok to continue valorizing him. https://hexbear.net/post/4067968 not sure why i ever bother wandering out of the trans mega…
Oh I thought that was what you were referencing when you made your other comment
yeah no i only just saw this one. dogshit post, i reported it as i find it actually objectionable so hopefully gets removed.
I’m like “oh no I hope this doesn’t pop off into a big struggle session and we can move on” rn ngl
I’m just toooooo tirrrrreeedddddd 
yeah i don’t want it to become that either, apologies if i contributed to it by complaining in your thread lol
No not at all don’t apologise I’m glad you did!! I feel less insane/wrong because of it so thank you
i do hope that thread gets dunked on though, some goofy fucking takes fr
His reading history is what he believed in the past, not what he believed while adjusting.
Consider that he was heading down the wrong path for a long time, but then realized that he was wrong, and acted accordingly. Cancelling someone because of their past beliefs is unproductive, and Luigi is proof of someone’s world view changing for the better.
This is fan fiction
My headcanon is real and accurate
It’s something! 🥰
The amount of people who out themselves by writing something like “It was 2 years ago”…
As in “it was two years ago he suggested eugenics, he’s probably fine now let me have my treat”? Or and i not following. Sowwwwwi.
Yeah there are comments that are like “these tweets are from 2022! If my hero thought this, he has surely changed!!”
Like we aren’t all guttered this dude turned out to be a chud, but like I dunno I think people are so downtrodden that any tiny sliver of a victory is something to cling to even when imo it’s not what people thought it was.
I guess I can’t separate the art from the artist lol I just think context and intent are important
I guess I can’t separate the art from the artist lol I just think context and intent are important
I can, but separating the art from the artist isn’t what’s happening here. They’re lauding the artist for his art. Not celebrating the art as a distinct thing.
They’re lauding the artist for his art. Not celebrating the art as a distinct thing.
Ooooooo fr fr like I still think it’s objectively funny a CEO found out. I don’t know why the conversation around it has to be so absolutist.
