• trompete [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I did not have a first communion because my parents decided Catholic rituals are stupid, which means I missed out on quite a lot of cash gifts from relatives I should have gotten. I’m still bitter about it. Where’s my fucking money grandma!?

    So I’m not skipping my first vote, no matter how stupid liberal rituals are.

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    The only people who care about vote are the people for whom the outcome actually means nothing.

    No LIB who spends their time vote shaming or talks about “we won’t get the vote anymore” he’ll be a dictator" etc., would be effected in the least - even if their fantasies happened.

    The people who things will get worse for know that it will get worse either way- at exactly the same speed. There is no harm reduction. The policy of this government is harm against humanity. Only people who are comfortable and insulated from that harm through money and privilege are out 9f touch enough to think vote matters

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    But my checks and balances! They are important so that either does not do a hecking populism like healthcare and stopping a genocide. This way only bipartisan issues get the nod like outlawing trans people or arming Nazis.

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    39 minutes ago

    Why didn’t you cross post it? I mean - if it was a real question and not just something for just to laugh about.

    -–

    Earlier today I asked this at Bluesky

    Serious question - why can’t Biden simply say “This is an official act and Kamala is the presidential nominee.” Trump could (will?) murder people with his official act power. So why doesn’t Biden use just a teeny-weeny bit?

    Crickets.

    I’m kind of a crazy person at that site because I’m often just talking to myself. Libs ignore me or block me. I’m going to make yet-another-alt so I can post in r/politics and at least get replies as they have their downvoting party.

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      If the alternative is so terrible, and the Supreme Court just ruled the President has total legal immunity in office, why hasn’t Biden done the obvious thing to protect the country against this horrific threat? soviet-hmm

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        I am going to be asking libs this every day until the election. Also, why doesn’t he solve Trump’s Justices while he’s at it?

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        Umm, wow, okay, you want us to become a TOTALITARIAN REGIME like China? Maybe take a second and think, tankie. America only uses violence to interfere in the democratic procedures of independent non-Western countries ANTI FREEDOM AUTHORITARIAN ROGUE STATES.

        If you think that America overthrowing the elected Sukarno by infiltrating the Indonesian military and guiding the slaughter of ~one million innocent people in Indonesia and propping up a dictator who would go on to commit a genocide in East Timor simply because Indonesia was developing independently and the government worked with the PKI, or the US working with Pinochet (whose government would go on to massacre left-wing dissidents and workers) to perpetrate the brutal coup in Chile because the elected Allende promised to pursue socialist policy in Chile and had worked on land reform/nationalization, or the US backing a coup in Guatemala (because the government had begun to block imperialist exploitation of their resources and labor) to depose the democratically elected Árbenz and inserting a military dictatorship that perpetrated a genocide against indigenous Guatemalans, if you think this is half as bad as the American government killing a single person who is not currently in power to prevent a fascist Nazi government from being formed, then say hello to Putin for me, because you’re nothing but a Russian bot who will clock out of your shift at some silly Moscow time. WE BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY!

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      Oh, I know who it is; I just don’t give a rat’s ass anymore. It doesn’t matter which old white man gets in, the genocide of sovereign Palestinians will continue, the concentration camps on the southern border will remain open, the wall will continue being built, Abbott won’t be stopped from putting saw blades in the rivers, the prison slavery complex won’t be abolished(and honestly, all of you deserve to be shot on that point alone because you all benefit from the fruits of prison slavery, and you all tacitly support it by voting in democrats who own stock in for-profit prisons), the 1033 program won’t be ended, the Cop Cities won’t be cancelled, none of it fuckin matters.

      Death to the settler empire. All I ask for is the opportunity to laugh in a couple anglo settler faces before the lynch mob gets me, too. I genuinely hate you bloodthirsty ghoul motherfuckers.

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      That doesn’t make any sense. If Hitler is the opposition, and your guy is the only person running against Hitler, my question would remain the same. Because if you’re not going to do anything, then you’re basically just making me sit around for 4 years until Hitler comes back into power.

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      It’s actually a complicated question for people (like me!) who hate America. Biden might be the accelerationist candidate at this point!

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      How is this still something being asked??

      It’s being asked because the current incumbent is a party to genocide and the “other option” currently isn’t

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      Let me get this straight.

      The Biden Administration, full of well-connected political elites, people with decades of experience and insider knowledge, people who attend intelligence briefings, plan wars, and sign off on covert operations, people who pursued Julian Assange to the ends of the earth, law be damned, are going to do nothing to prevent a coup that installs a one-party dictatorship in the United States? They really believe it will happen, and yet they are doing nothing, despite having the power to easily stop it?

      Or, are they scaring a vote out of you, rather than buying your vote with policies that their rich donors might not want?

      Is this democracy or a good cop bad cop routine?

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          Do you know why they didn’t stop Hitler? Do you know why they handed him power even though he lost the election? Because most of the industrial class was behind Hitler as a way to crush the enormous upswell of socialist agitation in Germany at the time. Capitalism was in crisis. The establishment wanted Hitler. He was a thug to beat back the left. The votes of the people didn’t matter, only money mattered.

          In America, the left is weak, and capitalism is all-powerful. They don’t need Hitler yet. Trump had four years to be Hitler and they didn’t let him. They were in charge, not him.

          The second they want Hitler, we’ll have Hitler, no matter how we vote. That is what Germany teaches us.

          Why would it be otherwise? The rich write our policies. The rich declare our wars. The rich crush our rights. The rich exploit and sicken us and they make sure the law lets them do it. You can’t vote them out. If the rich want to let Israel obliterate Palestine because Israel helps them control the oil-rich Middle East? That is what will happen. That is not on the ballot. If the rich want private healthcare? That is what will happen. You can’t vote on that. You can’t vote on any of this. You don’t have enough money.

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              It doesn’t matter how you vote, but there are other things you can do. Organize your workplace and community. Most of our rights were gained through strikes and other direct action. We didn’t vote in the 8 hour work week.

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                  I’m saying it’s not that important who runs the government, because the rich, the MIC, and the oil industry are in charge regardless. The only way positive change happens is if a bunch of us band together and physically force it to happen. They already have the elections gamed out, we’ve been voting for the lesser evil since Nixon, since before Nixon, and look where that has brought us.

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                  It’s not a quiz. You brought up Hitler and his rise to power but I don’t think you actually understand how Hitler and the Nazi party gained its power. My “point” is not some grand final statement or “gotcha” moment – my “point” is the whole conversation. If you’re not willing to have a dialogue, then just delete your posts in this thread and I will disengage.

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      Damn if Trump will end democracy, then the Dems should probably do something about him. Kind of wild how we can live in an alleged democracy and then it just ends with Trump completely unprovoked and unprecedented with no build up, seems like a good system. Even weirder that the alleged democracy didn’t end the last time Trump was.in power, despite everyone claiming it would.

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      So let me get this straight: you’re gonna keep holding this competition for power, and the results will either be democracy or the end of democracy, instead of just imprisoning the guy who’s threatening to end democracy? I don’t get it. It seems very inefficient and only something a poor leader would allow.

      If my team preserves democracy and the other team does not, and I currently hold power, why would I allow the other team even the remotest possibility of gaining power? And why are you assuming that Biden WILL win? What happens if he doesn’t? Why hasn’t he provided any contingency plans for if he loses? He hasn’t installed anyone in important positions or pass laws that will protect democracy in case he loses. It seems to me that if Biden loses, he will simply retreat to a beach house and leave us to fend for ourselves.

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      The US has never been a democracy. And I don’t mean that in the “constitutional republic” way. I mean it literally, there has been no time when everyone could participate in the organization of society let alone share the same status as the ruling class.

      Democracy isn’t ending because of Trump. It ended because a group of wealthy people in a closed room decided it was bad for business.

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      what democracy? all I see is an ownership class dictatorship with a red, angry, sadistic face and sometimes a blue, sad, excuse-making face

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      the other choice is the end of democracy

      What ‘democracy’?
      You never actually had any sort of representation of working-class people’s interests in your government, so clearly you aren’t talking about any genuine democracy. And there is no indication that the practice of representative ‘democracy’ is going away under the 99% Biden option, so clearly you aren’t talking about that, either.

      Also, if you do have a democracy, as you claim, then you should be put on Nuremberg trials for your complicity in many, many atrocities that you keep committing in a supposedly-democratic manner.

      and a piece of human shit in office

      Literally every single USian president, ever, including Biden. Hell, you venerate worse beings than Trump, like chattel slavers like Washington, for example.

      Also, your plan seems to basically be ‘never have the Dem party, which literally funds and backs Republican candidates in elections (including Trump in 2016, by the way), lose a presidential election to the Rep party’. Every literate person understands that that is not workable, even if you were correct about the supposed ‘end of democracy’.

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      If a so-called “democracy” is committing and normalizing genocide, then what good is that “democracy”?

      If tacitly endorsing genocide is an acceptable condition for the preservation of representative republicanism then what groups are eligible for this sacrificial role/duty?