• Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    55·
    2 months ago

    In the current conditions, agitators are being brutally assaulted, silenced, and killed pretty much all over the country. So I would have to say that I actually don’t want to continue to agitate in the current conditions, thank you.

    • tamagotchicowboy [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      16·
      2 months ago

      All hiding and lurking ends up doing is lowering the bar of what’s considered agitation, do what you can.

      Not much of a choice when all options are decided for you, two sides of the same coin, dictatorship of the bourgeois and all that.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      26·
      2 months ago

      That’s what pisses me off about the vote evangelists that come in and pester us. Why argue with people commited to an ideology that have already made a decision based on their knowledge of the situation and political beliefs? Especially when we’re a small minority compared to the vast majority like near 200 million who aren’t voting (and therefore voting for Trump obviously)

      • WELCOMETHRILLHO [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        Conservatives read garbage like The Turner Diaries and get their ideology from that, Leftists read the broad spectrum of theory and get their ideology from that. Liberals read Harry Potter and have no ideology.

    • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      24·
      2 months ago

      They’re too comfy to ever get jobs as field organizers. Organizers are under paid, work 6-7 day schedules, and the employment is temporary at best.

      I started losing my “faith” in the Dems after taking one of those jobs during a desperate stretch of unemployment. Worst job ever.

    • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      13·
      2 months ago

      They’re way more upset there’s people calling out their hypocrisy than people not voting.

      They don’t give a shit about winning but maintaining the smug moral high ground is non negotiable.

    • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.mlEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      That’s funny to think about. I’ve re-franchised quite a few formerly disenfranchised felons by explaining that laws changed and they can vote now and helping them learn how it goes. I never thought about the fact that these people care more about attacking other voters than doing the same. I guess if you’re “too good” to hang with leftists, you’re probably “too good” to hang with felons, but I’m a criminal fuck up too, I don’t really feel comfortable around people without records, so it’s easy for me.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    23·
    2 months ago

    Yeah I don’t think anyone who’s not voting or voting third party thinks they haven’t made a choice. Once again they’re incapable of seeing themselves as anything other than “The Adults in the Room.”

  • RION [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    23·
    2 months ago

    my favorite rush narrative is when the elder race returned from the stars and voted the temples of syrinx down

  • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    17·
    2 months ago

    Youre right I did make a choice.

    I made the choice that not supporting genocide was worth way more than any promise a liberal has tried to make and that’s before the completely reasonable assumption that all the liberals promises are completely worthless.

  • M68040 [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    16·
    2 months ago

    I would posit that whether an action is good or bad is heavily altered by a “spin” factor, namely whether or not one can argue about it and how effective it is. My name is Gyro Zepelli

      • WELCOMETHRILLHO [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        14·
        2 months ago

        And crucially, they can only imagine winning an argument in good faith against a good faith opponent, without fundamentally changing the politics of their opponent outside of this one argument. Republicans imagine the mass executions of democrats, while democrats imagine one Republican doing the right thing and voting on some milquetoast reform bill.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          8·
          2 months ago

          Lin-Manuel Miranda should turn “Good, Noble Republicans” into a play. Libs can’t get enough of that shit.

          Mr. Surburbia - the hero - breaks into a rap with a chorus backup.

          Good, Noble Republicans are out there (They’re out there, y’all! They are!)
          Good, Noble Republicans are out there (They’re out there, y’all! They are!)
          Good, Noble Republicans are out there (They’re out there, y’all! They are!)

          Spoken: “Who’s that I see?!” From stage right Mike the Neighbor enters. The applause is loud there are even some whomps. He’s a fan fave. He gets right down to it.

          Just 'cause I’m in the G-O-P - liberals - they won’t talk to me!..

            • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
              4·
              2 months ago

              Thank the police comin’ straight from the sub-burbs
              A young con got it good 'cause I’m white
              But not the other color, so police think
              They have the authority to kill a minority
              Eff that shit, 'cause they ain’t the one
              For bad police officers with a badge and a gun
              To be beating them and throwing in jail
              They can go toe-to-toe in the middle of a cell
              Effin’ with them 'cause they’re a teenager
              With a little bit a gold and a sneaker
              Searchin’ their car, lookin’ for the product
              Thinkin’ every black guy is sellin’ narcotics
              They’d rather see them in the pen
              Than them and Lorenzo rollin’ in a Benz-o
              Beat a POC out of shape
              And when dey finished - bring the yellow tape

              Okay, now that I have your kind attention let’s talk about realistic police reform. We can do this! Oh, right - I forgot! Oops! Thank you to rights holders of the song Eff tha Police for granting us usage permission. Where was I?..

              -–

              Later Ned Neolib (the actor who plays Mike the Neighbor) posted a 1,000 word defense of “dey”. However - the next day the producers said “We appreciate everything Ned Neolib has brought to the play but he is no longer in the cast.”

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
    14·
    2 months ago

    A new comment in the thread

    Alito and Thomas could very well die or retire in the next 5 years. An opportunity for the first dem court since 1974, or you can get two Leonard Leo endorsed 40 year olds to replace them. Basically, there is an opportunity to pack the courts at all levels for either winner. Or punish Biden…

    • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      22·
      2 months ago

      These people can’t conceive of any solutions that aren’t defined in the narrow confines of the Constitution. How have none of these people considered maybe the Constitution itself is the problem here?

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        9·
        2 months ago

        The Supreme Court was decent for maybe 30-40 years out of ~230, and has been bad for the last 30, and the conservative project to pack the judiciary with dead-eyed reactionaries reached maturity a decade ago…

        But give us five more years and maybe we’ll turn this around!

  • LaughingLion [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    7·
    2 months ago

    i can be a moral choice not to vote or to vote but skip over a race. he uses “moral cost” to imply a constant negative value when the value could be negative or positive. more like a moral consequence which can swing either way depending on your set of moral conditions