One disaster could ruin any hope we have of keeping a home and saving money for retirement one day.
Whew thank God I’m never going to be rich enough to afford either. Genuinely kinda more worried about the hundreds of millions of people who are going to die from climate change, who the hell gives a shit whether the American middle class loses their hope or whatever.
Middle class is an arbitrary distinction we are all workers
Now what can definitely be said is that your typical American is a reactionary racist beyond salvation but that’s true regardless of income, and if this is your point I don’t disagree
I’m not crying for some roaches with million dollar homes getting what was coming to them. The United States uses more power for air conditioning than all of south america uses for existing. Fuck em. Fuck their houses, fuck their retirements. They’ll hold on to their white picket fences until the rest of the world has burned into nothing but ash. We can and will do without them. These wildfires, all the wildfires to come are nothing compared to what climate change will wrestle upon the rest of the world.
One way of thinking I guess… The other is that these people live in the imperial core and had these decisions largely thrust upon them. They’re indoctrinated. It’s a similar inclination to hating the descendants of Jews that the Nazis shipped to the burgeoning colony in Palestine in the lead up to the Holocaust. If we’re completely abandoned the idea that these people are reachable and can organize and avert the worst outcomes, then sure. I’m not so certain they’re unreachable though. A lot of them, even most of them, definitely are in my experience.
All true, but fuck them anyway. The 2022 pakistan floods destroyed 800.000 houses and killed 1700 people. That’s where my sympathy goes, to the people who didn’t profit from the ravenous extraction of natural resources and the destruction of our whole planets ecosystem for the last two centures, but who as always bear the brunt of the destructive forces behind capitalism. Why should my sympathy go to the american middle-class of all people, just because they’ve colonized the whole world and have made their gentrifying destroying way of life the default? The middle-class in america is in no way closer to me or more important than any other poor person in any other part of the world.
Middle class is an arbitrary distinction we are all workers
It’s not entirely arbitrary. The middle classes are what people are referring to when they talk about the Petit Bourgeoise & “Labor Aristocracy”. Still, peppersky is perhaps taking things a bit too personally.
Dude, I’m a house owner. Do you think I don’t even deserve this shitty 511 square foot house that has put me into the category of being house-poor? Do you think I deserve to have my house burned down. You’re a fool who has bought into the concept of the middle class which is a class division useful for the bourgeoisie.
Yeh, if I’m not missing something this guy is attacking people that are like the majority of us…just trying to make it through this shit show called life. Slag the rich off all you like, but people like the person that started this thread don’t deserve hate. Unless they bought a house in a known fire area or use their air con maxed out every day.
Whew thank God I’m never going to be rich enough to afford either. Genuinely kinda more worried about the hundreds of millions of people who are going to die from climate change, who the hell gives a shit whether the American middle class loses their hope or whatever.
We’re all on the same team here, it’s all the same story
I’m not so fucking sure I’m on the same team as middle-class americans, but sure.
Middle class is an arbitrary distinction we are all workers
Now what can definitely be said is that your typical American is a reactionary racist beyond salvation but that’s true regardless of income, and if this is your point I don’t disagree
I’m not crying for some roaches with million dollar homes getting what was coming to them. The United States uses more power for air conditioning than all of south america uses for existing. Fuck em. Fuck their houses, fuck their retirements. They’ll hold on to their white picket fences until the rest of the world has burned into nothing but ash. We can and will do without them. These wildfires, all the wildfires to come are nothing compared to what climate change will wrestle upon the rest of the world.
One way of thinking I guess… The other is that these people live in the imperial core and had these decisions largely thrust upon them. They’re indoctrinated. It’s a similar inclination to hating the descendants of Jews that the Nazis shipped to the burgeoning colony in Palestine in the lead up to the Holocaust. If we’re completely abandoned the idea that these people are reachable and can organize and avert the worst outcomes, then sure. I’m not so certain they’re unreachable though. A lot of them, even most of them, definitely are in my experience.
All true, but fuck them anyway. The 2022 pakistan floods destroyed 800.000 houses and killed 1700 people. That’s where my sympathy goes, to the people who didn’t profit from the ravenous extraction of natural resources and the destruction of our whole planets ecosystem for the last two centures, but who as always bear the brunt of the destructive forces behind capitalism. Why should my sympathy go to the american middle-class of all people, just because they’ve colonized the whole world and have made their gentrifying destroying way of life the default? The middle-class in america is in no way closer to me or more important than any other poor person in any other part of the world.
It’s not entirely arbitrary. The middle classes are what people are referring to when they talk about the Petit Bourgeoise & “Labor Aristocracy”. Still, peppersky is perhaps taking things a bit too personally.
Dude, I’m a house owner. Do you think I don’t even deserve this shitty 511 square foot house that has put me into the category of being house-poor? Do you think I deserve to have my house burned down. You’re a fool who has bought into the concept of the middle class which is a class division useful for the bourgeoisie.
Yeh, if I’m not missing something this guy is attacking people that are like the majority of us…just trying to make it through this shit show called life. Slag the rich off all you like, but people like the person that started this thread don’t deserve hate. Unless they bought a house in a known fire area or use their air con maxed out every day.
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What the whole state?
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I suppose I’ve just called them all idiots then….
But it’s like when people buy houses on known flooding areas in the U.K. and then complain about flooding.