How many dead Palestinian kids will it take for you to change your vote?

  • tryptamine@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    23 days ago

    So Kamala Harris is responsible for the conflict between Israel and Palestine? The one that’s been going on for thousands of years?

    And let’s put this in another perspective…

    Let’s say your best friend has an enemy that lives next door. You and your best friend are not just friends, but business partners.

    How do you deal with a best friend and business partner that starts fighting with their neighbor when you know they have been fighting for decades, and when the neighbor kind of started the recent conflict?

    Sure you can suggest they drop the fight, you can tell them what they’re doing is wrong, but are you going to start a fight with your best friend and business partner? A fight that may end up with your business falling apart? Or worse your family getting hurt?

    Or do you decide to let your Racist Uncle Don take a shit on your dining room table and tell you he’ll handle it, without coming out and telling you what he’s going to do to handle it?

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      23 days ago

      The one that’s been going on for thousands of years?

      This is bullshit and proves you know nothing of what you are talking about. This conflict has been going on primarily since 1948 when Israel started doing genocide on the indigenous people of Palestine. Like I said before, shut the fuck up and listen to people you claim to support. I can have a Palestinian friend come in here and school your ass if you would rather hear from someone ACTUALLY living there.

      But honestly I would rather not even ask him because you probably would not listen to him either.

      Or do you decide to let your Racist Uncle Don

      again this is utter bullshit and a thought terminating cliche you fucking liberals always use to paint us as supporters of trump. Frankly I hope the next person that comes for him doesn’t fuck up.

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      23 days ago

      The one that’s been going on for thousands of years?

      Zionism was first articulated by Theodore Herzl in the 1880s. The first Zionist attacks in Palestine began in the 1920s. It’s been barely a century.

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      23 days ago

      So Kamala Harris is responsible for the conflict ongoing genocide between Israel is committing in Palestine?

      Fixed your sentence. Your phrasing was a bit weird.
      The answer is: to Yes. She is giving immense amounts of aid to ensure the genocide continues.

      The one that’s been going on for thousands of years?

      It’s been going on since 1948, learn your history shit stick.

      And let’s put this in another perspective…

      Let’s not. Geopolitics does not work as individualised analogies, especially not ones you set up given your incredibly lacking understanding of the world.

      Buddy, just say you are fine with genocide. Just say you support palestinians getting murdered. At least have the decency to be honest, instead of trying this half-assed attempt at pretending to give a shit.

      Racist Uncle Don.

      The only difference between Trump and Kamala is that he is rude on twitter, is obvious about what he does and he makes people like you leave the brunch table for a short while. Kamala is sending troops Israhell as the country is burying palestinians in mass graves and putting the rest in concentration camps. Somehow Trump is supposed to be worse?

    • The United States certainly has the power to stop this. If you block all arms deals, trade, diplomatic relationships and immigration, Israel will be fighting a 4 front war with no foreign support and the country will crumble. This comes at very little cost to the US and incredible benefit to the world. However, I doubt that even a De la Cruz victory would stop the genocide. The Senate would block any sanctions on the Zionist entity and if that failed, the courts would also block it. The United States is genocidal to its core and there is no way that any individual or party could make the current state apparatus work for the benefit of humanity.

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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      22 days ago

      Jews were kicked out of every part of Europe multiple times, and had frequent pogroms against them and laws restricting their land ownership and occupations in Europe. They did not suffer these oppressions under the Umayyads, Abbasids, Seljuks, or Ottomans.

      How do you deal with a best friend and business partner that starts fighting with their neighbor

      You have your neighbor move in with you, of course!
      Your mansion is big enough for his family as well as your own. His neighbors are living in their garage with no heating or AC, with the doors locked and only the windows to pass through. He’s got an SUV and a trailer, he hasn’t been there that long, he’s rich enough to do the move himself, and his whole reason for being there is because your other business partner had a dissociative spell and abused the shit out of him, but that 3rd partner gets to keep his house.

      The assertion that “Gazans started the conflict” is islamophobic. Israel kidnaps and tortures and bombs and assassinates Palestinians every month of every year, but you don’t call that “starting a conflict”?

      You claim to be a leftist but you are 100% carrying water for right-wing figures and ideology, and you are justifying it with your own lack of imagination.