I have about 7k in precious metals, and 2k in fire arms (and ammo) I do not have main character syndrome so I recognize my life as a trans woman is in extreme danger. How do I GTFO of the US? I’m having the most intense panic attack I’ve ever had and just want advice to escape extreme facism
This is not a decision you should be making in the middle of a panic attack. Emigrating demands extensive planning and carefully selecting a destination, particularly as a transgender person. I often have to tell young trans people this, and it’s relevant here: There are no good places for trans people, only bad places and worse places.
It is the same for disability. As a disabled trans person I’ve come to some peace (though not quite fully) with everywhere in the world just being shitty for me forever. When it gets bad enough where I live it will be worth the calculus of determining the least bad of “bad” or “worse” places, which I am preparing for in my own ways, but in the US and western European countries we are not there yet.
Check the /r/amerexit community. If you’re series about leaving you’ll need to immigrate somewhere. It’s not easy but it’s doable.
Probably going to need to leave your firearms behind though lol.
Good luck comrade.
/r/iwantout is another resource for emigration advice
We need one here. Some of us don’t have reddit anymore.
This, tbh also IMO (while I don’t know anything to contribute) it would be really nice if c/movingtonorthkorea on the grad had actual info on the subject too…
Tbh making a free reddit account is a small price to pay for advice on how to leave a country… Like I get not wanting to be on
but it’s to save your own life.perhaps a corporate spyware platform isn’t the safest place to announce you don’t like the US. We should have a community here and proxy or lift whatever useful content is there.
Selling your firearms, 7k USD in South America is enough money to fly here and pay rent and food and utilities for a year at least, plus new furniture. Living meagrely that is.
Don’t expect a fancy shmancy neighborhood tho, just nice, but if you are able to get a work from home job from the US, a bare 1k USD per month allows you a good life, health insurance/whatever included.
No idea how expensive hormones and stuff are here,
The gray market is easier and cheaper to access in a lot of Latin America.
If your main concern is trans rights, your options are extremely limited as most countries in the world are worse off than solid blue/Democrat states in the USA, on this issue. Getting access to trans healthcare and those important things would be very challenging in most “global south” countries. I wouldn’t recommend South Africa, while on paper LGBT rights are well protected, the reality is different and you’ll be forced to have a good private healthcare plan, called a medical aid. If you’re earning US dollars or Euros you’ll probably find our private healthcare really cheap compared to the USA, but if you’re earning a salary in South African Rands (ZAR), the private healthcare here is very expensive.
If you are currently living in a red/Republican state, swing state, or a Democratic state that is not good on trans issues, a more realistic plan would be to move to state that is protective of trans rights as a start. It’s much easier than moving to an entirely new country, I would assume. If you already live in such a state and want to leave the USA (very understandable), you’ll have to research countries that have good protection of trans rights, on paper and in practice, with affordable access to the healthcare you need. I imagine this is going to be a pretty short list of options, mainly consisting of Western European nations, and maybe New Zealand or Australia.
Also, I’m a vegan who would rather die than lose my dog so pls keep that in mind in any advice
Is your dog able to endure a flight? Like, I understand is a very stressful proc3ss for them
A lot of airlines now won’t carry large pets that can’t fit under a seat, having looked into it recently. Op would need to take a boat ride to take a medium or larger dog unfortunately. But even if they did still take large dogs, I’d probably never put mine in the cargo compartment
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I’m currently looking for vegan Roommates. I live in Canada.
Go to mexico or something - it should be easier for american citizens? right? Because europe is busted and the AES states are difficult to migrate to.
I think the problem is being able to find work there without in-demand skills to get an employer to sponsor a work visa.
I know someone who moved to Mexico and lived off their social security money. They lived pretty well, but they had trouble dealing with social security remotely and their benefits were cut off. Even in the wealthyish expat community they were in they couldn’t find enough off the books work to live.
My dad tried this. He had to travel back either twice or once a year to keep social security up as basically a paperwork trip, which ate up some of that social security cash
If it’s just you (and your dog as you mentioned in a different comment) I don’t think it should be too difficult. I don’t kow what languages you know, but even if it is only English you can still kind of coast by on the unipolar moment. Plenty of countries will still not really require Americans to apply for citizenship so much as just announce that they live there now. Unfortunately many of those are the Euro ones and where America goes, we go soon after, so it’s probably not a great idea to go where you will have the exact same problem again in five to ten years. Still, if you are serious about moving there should be plenty of countries in the world that will pretty much rubber stamp you for approval so long as you get out before you are actually legally stripped of all your rights, which still gives you some time.
Plenty of countries will still not really require Americans to apply for citizenship so much as just announce that they live there now
What? More info please lol
Slight exaggeration for comedic effect, but because the US is such a rich country if their citizens announce that they would rather live and pay tax in your country, the process tends to be a lot easier. Not every American is rich of course, but as a rule they’re not gonna dive that deep into you as an individual person. I am, as I said, Eurotrash and can mostly speak for my own country, but I have never met or even heard of an American who was denied to stay for however long they wanted to. If an American applies for citizenship the quthorities pretty much just go “Well, that’s probably a net gain for us.” and approve it. And that’s not exclusive to the Euro countries, though as has been mentioned it might be difficult in countries like China where they would probably actually check.
It should be kept in mind that nobody has to do a lot of deep checking to find out you’re trans and decide they don’t like you because of that. A lot of times they can just look at your face and see it, and if not, your ID may not match what they see. And then you have to try to find a job there, because even if you’re moving somewhere that your dollars have relatively strong buying power, you aren’t going to live on that for more than a year at best. Hard enough to get a job as a trans person as a born citizen who speaks the language, I wouldn’t like my chances trying to get one as a foreigner speaking a second language.
True, but I assume that a trans person looking to move will check the specifics of that country far more carefully than I have done. Please do not move to another country based on my internet comments. And in the countries that would be considered by a trans person an American citizenship would still make things much easier.
I am, as I said, Eurotrash and can mostly speak for my own country, but I have never met or even heard of an American who was denied to stay for however long they wanted to.
what about canadians? and do you mind saying which country?
I live in Sweden, and while I don’t have a huge number of Americans to choose from for my examples, the ones I do have range from staying because their girlfriend lived here (relationship ended within months, but just decided to stay anyway), to having an uncle who is not even a citizen himself who lives in a different part of the country. It is not that difficult. Canadians can’t quite ride the American supremacy in the same way, but anyone from white people land would frankly have a fairly easy time. Any trans person who has to go to Europe I would recommend Denmark. They have made it a part of their national character to be fine with all LGBTQ people in order to be able to focus more on their islamophobia.
All right. Sounds cool but I’m still skeptical. I might want to ask you some more questions sometime (even though I probably won’t try this). Are you really sure I could outstay my visitor Visa or w/e it is (can’t remember if it’s 90 days or like 6 months) without like proof that I have a really good career to support myself or something? I suppose I’d have to do some kind of work since I don’t have a ton of savings, and the entry level jobs probably wouldn’t want to hire someone who doesn’t even speak Swedish, lol
You’ll still have to apply to extend your visa, it’s just much easier for Americans to get that extension. Having a job would of course help, but if you’re not receiving unemployment benefits (That would be tough even for an American) they may just assume that you do some kind of freelance/investment.
Plenty of countries will still not really require Americans to apply for citizenship so much as just announce that they live there now.
what, is that really true? everything I have read (as a Canadian) makes it sound like a very strict process. But I don’t even have the funds to survive for several years in another country anyways, much less the desire to try to get hired at some minimum wage job in another country (if they’d even hire an immigrant lol)
Consider reaching out to this crew, i think theyre based in the netherlands
There were some unresolved questionsa about them and their operations in africa last time they were posted. And their level of available support for USians seemed minimal, at least at that time
I’m trans with far fewer resources and I’m planning on duking it out here. I spent my meager savings and a good chunk of my mental health to move from a deep red state to California. I have practically nothing left and I’m out a support system since I had to leave most of my friends behind to get out. I feel kinda naked being unable to legitimately arm myself, but the only people I actually feel in danger from are police so its an improvement overall.
I’ve looked into moving abroad, but western influence is massive and they’ve been demonizing us for generations. There are trans people everywhere, but you’ll have to get a lot more comfortable with risk. Personally, I can’t really justify it. The most I could do is move to my mom’s home country to try to make a stand with my family there, but my ties and responsibilities are in the Americas either way.
I am afraid, but I’ve run as far as I can. What’s left is putting down roots and finding community. I can only afford to resist.
I asked around and some friends said you could poke around British Columbia, Canada. But like others said, it’s likely not paradise either. I’ve heard the bureaucracy might be easier, but you’ll need to shop around to find a less costly city while avoiding isolation.
Trans Rescue helps trans people in the US and Global South flee to Denmark fwiw.
Some comrades of mine are working on building a sort of underground railroad house in a safe state if you are looking to get out of your state but not the country.
