Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

    • RedDawn [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      52·
      1 year ago

      No it isn’t, that’s laughable. The US has far and away the worst most heinous surveillance of its citizens, not to mention the citizens of other nations as well. Try reading a summary of what Snowden revealed about the US state surveillance programs for instance

        • RedDawn [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          42·
          1 year ago

          I’m not from China but I’ve been there and it isn’t hard to speak with people from China to learn that it’s not some dystopia. US is hands down far more of a police state.

            • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
              39·
              1 year ago

              I highly doubt that. It sounds like you’re someone who’s never had your material security threatened. There’s no other way you could imagine that unrestricted pickup artist and grind set entrepreneur internet is more valuable than the Chinese peoples’ ongoing victories against crushing poverty.

                • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  41·
                  1 year ago

                  You don’t have to suppress information to improve people’s lives

                  Of course you fucking do numbnuts. Who the fuck do you think owns all the media? The proles? I sure love all the proletarian mainstream media we have around here. Oh my fucking god I feel so fucking represented!

                  Lack of control over the media results in the bourgeoisie exercising their financial power to use it to control the superstructure of society, through entertainment, art and more everything becomes the cultural product of the bourgeoisie. The outcome of which is a bourgeoise-led society and ultimately this leads to bourgeoise politics.

            • RedDawn [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              29·
              1 year ago

              In the US corporations do the censorship and it isn’t better. Also, if that trumps everything for you, a reexamination of priorities is probably in order. There are actually more important things than reactionaries being able to say whatever they want online. Facebook was used to help commit genocide in some countries for example, is that OK for you or should the calls for genocide have been censored?

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      48·
      1 year ago

      I know Edward Snowden is a libertarian or some dumb shit but man he really did get himself exiled for nothing.

      “I assume that the enemies designated by my rulers are worse than my admittedly very wicked rulers, based entirely on testimony from those same wicked rulers.”

      PIGPOOPBALLS

      • GaveUp [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        32·
        1 year ago

        Snowden got citizenship in Russia for his entire family, a lot of money from authoring a book and other media deals, and worldwide fame as a hero

        He may not have achieved his goal but his consolation prize is not bad