Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

  • RedDawn [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    42·
    1 year ago

    I’m not from China but I’ve been there and it isn’t hard to speak with people from China to learn that it’s not some dystopia. US is hands down far more of a police state.

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        39·
        1 year ago

        I highly doubt that. It sounds like you’re someone who’s never had your material security threatened. There’s no other way you could imagine that unrestricted pickup artist and grind set entrepreneur internet is more valuable than the Chinese peoples’ ongoing victories against crushing poverty.

          • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            41·
            1 year ago

            You don’t have to suppress information to improve people’s lives

            Of course you fucking do numbnuts. Who the fuck do you think owns all the media? The proles? I sure love all the proletarian mainstream media we have around here. Oh my fucking god I feel so fucking represented!

            Lack of control over the media results in the bourgeoisie exercising their financial power to use it to control the superstructure of society, through entertainment, art and more everything becomes the cultural product of the bourgeoisie. The outcome of which is a bourgeoise-led society and ultimately this leads to bourgeoise politics.

              • ImOnADiet🇵🇸 (He/Him)@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                34·
                1 year ago

                anyone can start their own media without suppression.

                yeah until you get popular and you suddenly have 3 bullet wounds to the back of the head, if you somehow even have the money to start a media outlet that challenges state power

                  • ImOnADiet🇵🇸 (He/Him)@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                    35·
                    1 year ago

                    please for the love of god actually look into how the world works. How do you suppose that people will learn about your new resource? the power of friendship? how do you hire the journalists needed to expand your sources? All this shit takes capital dumbass, me and you would never be able to get the capital to run something like that unless we were already rich by other means, media is a saturated field.

                    And good fucking god do you really think coups and assassinations don’t happen anymore? the US was just exposed for couping pakistan, and Julian Assange is going to rot in prison for the rest of his miserable short life for exposing US war crimes and secrets, you literally know fucking nothing about the world this is embarrasing

                  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    35·
                    1 year ago

                    Anyone can make their own website and post whatever they want.Ho

                    fucking shit this is so disengenuous. There is a difference between MAINSTREAM media and just the general posting of average people online. If you think they give a fuck what you post online I recommend you go to weibo and actually take a look, you will find people posting all sorts of shit.

                    The only thing they truly give a fuck about are the mainstream and people of real influence, celebrities, the rich, etc.

                    Also free speech is being able to say what you want to whomever you want. Like protesting.

                    You are out of your mind if you don’t think protesting happens in China. It’s provably false in seconds of effort to look it up. What you’re not allowed to do is advocate for the destruction of the Chinese state, just like you’re not allowed to do that in every fucking country, including the west. There are protests for all kinds of shit every day otherwise. Workers rights, improving conditions, fixing shit, etc etc.

                  • RedDawn [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    20·
                    1 year ago

                    In the capitalist world the rich and the poor are both equally free to sleep under a bridge! Likewise anybody is free to start or buy a billion dollar media press outlet or social media giant, that’s why it’s important that no restrictions are ever placed on false and harmful reactionary speech!

      • RedDawn [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        29·
        1 year ago

        In the US corporations do the censorship and it isn’t better. Also, if that trumps everything for you, a reexamination of priorities is probably in order. There are actually more important things than reactionaries being able to say whatever they want online. Facebook was used to help commit genocide in some countries for example, is that OK for you or should the calls for genocide have been censored?