https://teddit.zaggy.nl/r/Psychonaut/comments/18mth6c/peyote_is_the_darling_of_the_psychedelics/
Honestly this whole thread is a cesspool, pure psychic damage. There are literally functional alternatives, but still these self-enlightened egolords can’t keep their fucking hands off an endangered plant. The prevailing attitude looks to be “Its there, so I i am entitled to plunder it”
No offence to any psychedelics users here, but every person who claims that they made them more enlightened, empathetic or understanding in my experience was always a worse human being afterwards, because they behaved exactly like this redditor. “I’m an enlightened empath because of my psychedelics, and that makes me better than you, so shut up and quit complaining, some of us have real problems, like I haven’t gotten high in 20 minutes!”
That isn’t my experience, though there are definitely some of those people too.
“I don’t have an ego. In fact, I have less of an ego than you do.”
“The fact that you would even suggest that just shows your own insecurities.”
Meh, it’s a mixed bag. Assholes tend stay assholes with drugs and cool people tend to be cool. I definitely met the worst kind quite a few times though
Yeah, I agree. They just get used by assholes to justify being an even bigger asshole.
There’s a certain type of spiritual person, especially ones who embrace westernised forms of Buddhist or Taoist thought, who think that because they’ve discovered the illusion of the self and achieved “stream entry” or whatever, that they’re now above ethical concerns. It’s not wrong after all if you’re the enlightened one, and you can’t cause suffering if there’s no you to cause it.
(this is, incidentally, why most deep meditation traditions, eastern and western and in other cultures, force strict moral codes and even permanent isolation from society before you’re allowed to touch the cool mind bindy shit.)
idk the classic tale of the libertarian who did MDMA turned out to be a better person because of it.
The hard part of psychedelics is not the revelation, but taking that revelation back to the sober mind. Psychs just break down the barrier and give you a heavy boost. If you can’t carry it back then you’re just using them a substitute for cultivating that behavior you want.
Yeah, they aren’t magic, they just make your brain all fucky for a bit. They’re a tool, not a cure-all.
In my experience, the person at the rave most likely to commit a SA, is the person talking nonstop about the spiritual aspects and healing powers of psychedelics.
Mine too. We’ve probably met the same sort of person.
Isn’t this the exact same case with Westerners who get really into Zen Buddhism
Yep. They get all excited at the mystical Orientals teaching them to eat, pray, love and don’t actually bother to understand why people meditate, just using it as a cudgel to beat people over the head with how much better they are than them.
They definitely opened my mind, but I think that had more to do with my denial of my gender identity, as it was still part of the trip that I had to willingly accept washing over me.
I see it kinda like caffeine. Sure, it can stimulate you and “wake you up,” but it isn’t going to do anything to someone who is intellectually, spiritually, and emotionally comatose. You need to want to change something in yourself, to be willing to do what needs to be done for your own and others’ good, whether or not it hurts.
People like this make is horribly difficult to get anyone to even try meditation, as they go around convincing everybody it’s solely a practice in clearing your mind, when in actuality it should be an exercise of mindfulness, in which you raise your awareness of your mental state. Generally, this means people are quite surprised when I tell them about how things they do are functionally equivalent, like taking a walk while thinking introspectively.
Sorry for the rant.
No, it’s very much appreciated, I agree with the meditation thing, I’m hippie adjacent-adjacent (Friends of friends sort of thing) and some of the nonsense that comes out of their mouths about meditiation unlocking your “secret potential” and other bullshit, when it’s like…brushing your teeth, for your mind. It’s a good way to keep your brain healthy, it’s not magic.