Oh sayyyyy cannnn you seeeee

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    One of my biggest fears in para/emergency medicine was having to do a rushed MRI transfer. We were so undermanned that there was only one technician in the whole MRI clinic. If the patient was unstable or combative or went into cardiac arrest or we just didn’t have enough hands to transfer them with the emergency staff, it was me going in with a bunch of metal on me. There’s no time to pause and consider if the metal parts of my boot are going to suddenly amputate my legs or if a pen in my shirt is going to impale me.

    STOP DOING ELECTROMAGNETISM. They have played us for absolute fools.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    don’t they put you in a hospital gown for MRIs to prevent any metal buttons on your pants from burning you? So where was she concealing it anyw-

    Oh… Oh no… She hid it up her butt!!!

    But also holy hell how stupid do you have to be to bring your gun to an MRI?!?!

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      I believe I had to strip down to my underwear for my previous MRI. They also had a locker for me to put all of my stuff in while it was being performed.

      I can imagine this woman laying her gun in the locker, pausing and then saying “you never know” before taking it back out and tucking it into the waistband of her undies.

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      The inner cities are full of crime, don’t you know? Random weirdos who should never be allowed guns secretly carry them everywhere and discharge them recklessly

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      The magnetic field from the MRI scanner pulled the pro-gun lawyer’s weapon from his waistband and it went off, shooting him in the tummy.

      Nooo, not the tummy

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    frothingfash “I thought this was 'Murica, I have a Constitutional Right to carry that gun! First masks, then vaccines, now they’re trying to Take Our Guns?! I’ve had it with the woke medical industry!”

  • i’m not a gun guy by any means, but–assuming it wasn’t a revolver, which is totally possible–doesn’t this imply that it was an automatic and there was a round chambered? personally, i don’t carry a piece. but i guess the kind of person that concealed carries into a hospital MRI room after saying they don’t have a weapon on them, is gonna be the sort of person that wants to quick draw and blow a hole in something without a second’s delay.

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      She:

      had it in a hospital (dubious legality, I have no clue but it sounds wrong)

      Had it loaded

      Had it chambered

      Had safety off

      Had it pointed at her ass somehow which guarantees improper carry technique involved lied about it

      is unlikely to have a permit seeing as the article doesn’t know.

      And all of those are the toppings on taking into a massive electromagnet

      She’s a bubba no doubt about it.

      • ReadFanon [any, any]@hexbear.net
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        Far from an expert here but I could absolutely imagine an MRI machine having enough magnetism to flick the safety off, under the right conditions.

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      Knowing the kind of person who does all the things you mentioned, it was probably a striker-fired pistol too (Gun everywhere, round-always-chambered people typically dont want anything with a hammer that can snag on their clothes when they do their cowboy quickdraw). Build quality being equal, a striker pistol should be about as safe as a hammer pistol, most of the time…unless you take it into a crazy strong electromagnetic field, in which case you’d better hope it has some kind of drop-safety to keep the striker from being magnetically yoinked forward into the chamber.

      If it didn’t go off as soon as she walked in, I assume she shifted position in a way that lined up the gun with the magnet to make that exact kind of malfunction possible

      Bonus from the article about America’s most popular striker pistol randomly shooting it’s owners in the legs:

      Additionally, this same news outlet reported that the Army’s approval of the P320 led many police departments to adopt this weapon. However, they were unaware that the model they would be receiving was the version that had failed Army testing.

      miyazaki-laugh

    • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      doesn’t this imply that it was an automatic

      no, gun only fired one shot. could be anything from a single-shot derringer to a DA/SA to a DA-only revolver. Personally, my bet is a normal DA/SA with one in the chamber. My bet is something with a hammer already back and a light trigger pull, so the MRI didn’t have to move much.

      personally I carry with one in the chamber and the safety on. Racking the slide is slow and requires two hands, which you may not have available if you are (for instance) trying to push someone off you. If concealed carry is defensive, it implies you’re responding to other peoples’ actions. You can (and should) try to be aware of when things are going down, but definitionally they’ve got the drop on you. So you can’t pause to load your blunderbuss; if you’re slow you might as well not carry at all and save everyone the danger.

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      Generally speaking, you don’t really want to have you weapons unchambered unless you’re dealing with a large population of idiots/inexperienced people, such as the military (their guns have manual safeties and there are many situations where it’s completely unloaded or unchambered). But this also applies to American citizens, but unfortunately no one enforces these rules. Cops having no safeties make sense because nominally they’re always in danger (even though they’re not even in the too dangerous professions lol), and I believe many departments require heavy triggers so you’re sure you want to shoot.

      Many citizens will even lighten their trigger pull significantly so you just pull it back a hair and it’ll go off. Because you know, we live in the 1850 and every corner is someone trying to murder you.

      Though I would never carry unchambered. I can’t imagine being in a scenario where I’ll have enough time to rack the slide back, and my palms are always sweaty.

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    Not a gun expert. Putting aside the obvious “don’t bring a gun into an MRI machine” would having the safety on prevent this sort of thing?

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      I’m pretty sure it would have prevented it firing. Not tucking into the waistband (presumably how the ass got hit) would also have prevented the gunshot wound even if it still went off.

      It would still damage someone or something when it gets summoned by the magnet wizard though. I think.

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      The most popular handgun is the Glock, and that has a trigger safety. This means that all you have to do is depress the entire trigger for it to go off. The springs and metal pieces that hold together that little safety are small, so powerful magnets could pull them back them. People usually get aftermarket parts too, and some triggers will be fully metallic which means it’ll be even more vulnerable to a magnet. Also, people will often make the trigger lighter meaning less force is required to fire the gun lol.

      There is also a a piece of metal in front of the firing pin (the little pin that hits the back of the bullet for it to explode and fly out the barrel). If the trigger isn’t depressed, a powerful magnet could still rip the pin block back which releases the pin. Though I’ve heard that Glocks aren’t fully cocked, so the energy shouldn’t be powerful enough to strike the primer. But again, this is a powerful magnet(s) from all sorts of directions. The firing pin is metallic as well, so the magnet could force the it towards the bullet with much more energy than normal.

      I’m not physicist or mechanic, but i wonder if a manual safety would be safer in this scenario since it requires you push down before you can fire, whereas a trigger safety will move horizontally in one quick motion.

      The second part isn’t exclusive to Glock. Well, nor is the first one. Many popular CCWs are trigger safety only and many people will remove the thumb safety altogether.

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      There is something very spooky about the MRI being placed upon a wood panel floor. Nature is being mocked.

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      Waivers exist for a lot of stuff over here because we follow a customer model rather than a service model.

      The waivers also exist for liability reasons. Ex. A person full of shrapnel literally can’t get an MRI without a waiver even though it’s not an issue (as evinced by surviving the first one).

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    If it’s a rear holster it sounds more like it was probably a graze. Pretty lucky as there’s a bunch of holsters I can think of where she’d get shot properly.

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      You usually have to strip down to your underwear, there’s no way you can sneak a holster past that. It’s very possible that she literally shoved it up her ass