• RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Westerners say shit like this as if it’s some sinister secret agenda that’s been exposed by deep infiltration and analysis, when in reality the politicians in China have been saying this publicly in speeches and interviews since before these people were born

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    Marcio Rubio said “China has found a way to use capitalism against us.”

    Hillary Clinton said “they are a controlled top down economy. we will never compete and win against them unless we take back the means of production.”

    This is true bipartisanship.

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    Fascists say China is communist and that communism is evil because it is literally the devil’s work; liberals say that China is only pretending to be communist and that it is actually capitalist because communism is impossible and goes against human nature (also known as god). Every communist is really just a lying, power-hungry capitalist who is fooling the brainwashed masses (who want communism…even though that would make anti-communist countries dictatorships). If communist activists were actually capitalists, it would probably be a lot easier to just work as capitalists, but w/e.

    Both liberals and fascists are entangled in mysticism and I really wish we had a national organization in the USA that was taking them on because sometimes I have to wonder if they’re as strong as they seem.

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        The fash usually do the liberals’ dirty work, which is why liberals are always so desperate to get at least a few fascists onboard with their project. Liberals themselves don’t like getting their hands dirty.

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      Fascists say China is communist and that communism is evil because it is literally the devil’s work; liberals say that China is only pretending to be communist and that it is actually capitalist because communism is impossible and goes against human nature (also known as god). Every communist is really just a lying, power-hungry capitalist who is fooling the brainwashed masses (who want communism…even though that would make anti-communist countries dictatorships). If communist activists were actually capitalists, it would probably be a lot easier to just work as capitalists, but w/e.

      up-yours-woke-moralists

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      this comment gave me semantic satiation with the word communist and I had to triple check you weren’t saying cummunist. I hope you’re happy.

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    They’re capitalist when it’s convenient for the propoganda/media class and anticapitalist when it’s convenient - or when the actual big boys have to analyze them like the WTO.

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      China is “state capitalist” whenever western media describes its success and “communist” whenever it describes a human rights violation.

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    I love reading the WSJ because it’s like a little peek into the mental framework that undergirds neoliberalist thinking. It’s like a kinder egg but there’s nightmares inside instead of a tiny toy

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        The quote

        In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

        – Michael Parenti, Blackshirts And Reds

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