What’s wrong with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

Imperialism

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  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    2 years ago

    Why does this site care so much about AOC? Can you make a list like this for like, Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA)? How about Blake Moore (D-UT)? Robert “Bobby” Scott (D-VA)? Joe Wilson (R-SC)?

    I don’t get the obsession. INB4 I get accused of supporting her - no, she’s just a random congressperson and because of that I don’t understand why anyone gives a shit, unless you live in her district.

    • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      2 years ago

      She sells herself as a socialist and ran on DSA backing. Did any of the others? None of them are relevant to me unless they’re claiming to be on the left.

        • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          2 years ago

          I don’t understand the question. Why wouldn’t it be? If someone says they’re in your camp, it’s important to know if they actually are or not. What she does will impact the reputation of every other socialist running for office by association. I don’t want to be associated with judas goat liberals.

            • Kumikommunism [they/them]@hexbear.net
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              2 years ago

              AOC needs to be “the biggest obstacle to socialism” in order to criticize her, but you named 3 random congresspeople instead?

              What are you even trying to say?

                • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                  2 years ago

                  That’s a contender for one of the dumbest takes I’ve seen on this site. Where are the threads criticising generic democrats and republicans? Every fucking thread mentioning either. Where’s your thread calling out those specific goobers if they have any relevance whatsoever to the left? If you don’t want your particular favourite liberal being called out, fuck off to /r/politics where you can have your personality cult and pretend it’s meaningful.

    • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      2 years ago

      Because none of those people claim to be socialist and, in turn, socialists don’t feel compelled to defend every compromise and fuck up from every senator. The rule is imperial capitalism, and this list is attempting to show there aren’t exceptions

    • betelgeuse [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      2 years ago

      Because people keep trying to say that supporting AOC, which means anything from complimenting her to voting for her and her endorsements, helps our cause. That’s literally what the person was saying in 500 post thread we had last night. That we need to support as many AOCs as possible in order to make things easier for ourselves to do socialism.

      When people, rightfully, criticize that idea, we get people asking why we’re so obsessed and of course she can’t do anything, we shouldn’t expect her to. You’re not a supporter of her but you must understand that the topic didn’t just pop up out of thin air.

      And it’s good/cool to dunk on her when she fails at being a good progressive. Because nobody should think that posting positively about a candidate leads to helping socialism. For one, it doesn’t even help AOC because nobody cares what we think of her. Two, helping AOC doesn’t lead to socialism. It’s pretty basic stuff.

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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        2 years ago

        it’s not “in group aesthetics”

        1. A lot of people on this site were demsocs when she got elected and were enthusiastic about seeing a self-identifying socialist make it into congress. Then the flaws began to show.

        2. The American right pretends she’s the 2nd coming of Lenin so pushing back against that narrative by demonstrating that she’s yet another bourgeois reformist masquerading as a socialist is important, because she should not ever be the face of American socialism, given her pro-imperialism and anti-worker track record