Government officials are publicly admitting they “knew about aliens but lied”? Techbros are jacking themselves to death about how aliens superior intelligence has let them trap us somehow? Apparently the government has new terminology for these space aliens that are supposed to exist? How much of this is real? Or is it mainly just bullshit?

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    Pretty sure it’s all bullshit. I’ll believe it when someone demonstrates conclusive proof. This is one of those “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”. The amount of energy and resources someone would need to fly interstellar distances is absurd. Unless someone can show me a space ship it’s not worth my time.

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      Too much sci-fi media has poisoned people’s brains. You’re absolutely correct about how much energy it would require to leave a solar system, then travel to another. Traveling at the speed of light would still take several years to go to our nearest neighbor. And the closer you get to the speed of light, the more energy you need to go forward as your mass increases.

      If you fired a speck of dust at the speed of light at something, it would hit with more force than a nuclear bomb. So imagine how much force is required to propel a huge ass ship.

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      3 months ago

      Flying all the way across space just to do a few whirls in the sky above the upright ape meatsacks like one of us riding a motorcycle from Spain to Japan to pop a wheelie in front of a beetle and then peace out✌️

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      I think with even current, possible theoretical models of an orion drive that uses antimatter-matter reactions we would only reach around 40% at most of the speed of light. Not bad, but at 99% it would take 4 years? Not exactly sure how that would scale down.

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    3 months ago

    It’s bullshit, this shit has happened multiple times in my life. The 90’s was filled with ‘totally legit’ claims of aliens with a whole industry built around grifting area 51.

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    3 months ago

    What “new” shit are you talking about because literally every year since 2015 they talk about the exact same shit like it’s new but oh no it’s just luiz elizondo and the FLIR tic tac video, AGAIN

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    The purpose of “ufo disclosure” is to manufacture consent for granting epistemological authority and therefore social/political/economic authority to the American m.i.c.

    Intended individual outcomes can range from “give dod more funding to counter X threat, even if we don’t really understand what it is and it might just be china not aliens”, all the way to “govt insiders are active partners in alliance with galactic civ, we should acquiesce to their every suggestion and have no expectation of democratic participation”

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    It’s not real. Honestly it’s never real, and companies keep pretending it is because it gets views. So stop believing this shit.

    Even when it’s so real that world leaders are doing press conferences about it, you should still be at least somewhat skeptical.

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    i dunno dawg, people like Grusch are talking about ‘extradimensional’ beings now, it’s getting very silly

    anytime I hear an interview with one of these modern ufology guys1 (who are always alarmingly close to the US military or intelligence and for some reason brag about it?) it’s all bluster and technobabble with plenty of appeals to authority like: “this one guy is a scientist, so when he says UFO’s are real, they must be!” or “this active psyops officer told me that the US definitely has super secret alien tech”

    some of the declassified videos are a bit funky, but honestly I think it’s more likely that a blob moving at physics-defying speeds is actually just a camera artefact, an illusion or an insect, than actually breaking the laws of physics.

    1 Luis Elizondo is formerly Army Intelligence, David Grusch is USAF intelligence, Tom DeLonge is running an org called To The Stars Academy which receives funding from and works with the US military and was literally founded by Jim Semivan, ex CIA, Avi Loeb got his start in science through the IDF Talpiot program (but at least he’s doing some real science sometimes), etc etc

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    In addition to what others said; I’ve always thought all the released footage, pictures, etc from hearings and actual government sources was a way of the U.S to flex it’s covert weapons/air programs. Civilians could never hope to access that information and get told only what they want to hear by intelligence-connected folks and other nations get to wonder either or not it’s actually U.S tech. Another person made as point that it requires immense energy to travel interstellar distances. All the footage we’ve seen of “UFOs” have been on Earth, not in space or in satellite detection.

    There was a thread a while back that asked if the U.S would beat China in direct conflict. Barring nukes, I do still think China would be successful in the long run; but we’d see some insanely ghoulish shit right out of trillion dollar laboratories and whatever horrible shit is in the Pandora’s box of the M.I.C that they’re flexing right in front of us through Jet-fighter footage.

    At a job I worked a long time ago, I had a supervisor who was a polejockey in the D.I.A. He was extremely, extremely tight-lipped on everything. The only thing he ever told me is that America had a vast (he heavily emphasized “vast”), sprawling complex of underground railroads and loading stations built during the Cold War in order to mask deployments or military loads from satellites or espionage. Doesn’t mean they still wont use above-ground railroads; it’s just how they hide a lot of more sensitive things.

    So with that infrastructure in mind, the trillions of dollars that have been siphoned out of the Pentagon and the relative power of the M.I.C and intelligence community; I don’t doubt for one bit that 90% of what we see is just the U.S flexing their super-expensive toys.