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sweatersocialist [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 8 months ago

xi jinping confronts trudeau over leaking their private conversation to the press, then pulls a "cease your liberal bullshit" when trudeau tries to defend his snake-like actions

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xi jinping confronts trudeau over leaking their private conversation to the press, then pulls a "cease your liberal bullshit" when trudeau tries to defend his snake-like actions

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sweatersocialist [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 8 months ago
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Xi Jinping confronts Justin Trudeau at G20 over 'leaked' conversation details
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China's president, Xi Jinping. confronted the Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau, at the G20 leaders' summit in Bali, Indonesia. Subscribe to Guardian N...
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  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    “In Canada we believe in open and frank discussion….” Unless the topic is Israel of course.

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      No we don’t. That’s simply not how diplomacy works first of all and it’s a massive mischaraterization of the Canadian, we are essentially if Minnesota was a country. We are neither frank nor open and we don’t discuss anything.

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      No, they’re pretty open and frank about their support of Israel

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    This is from a year ago, made me think it happened again. Xi should have taken him over his knee and given Trudeau the spanking his Dad couldn’t. fidel-salute-big

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    Xi like “can you believe this fuckin’ guy?”

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      xi-gun-1xi-gun-2 kkkanada

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        xi-plz

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      Typical westoid reaction to being held accountable in even the slightest ways

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    China negotiates with all countries as equals: equals in dignity, equals in intellect. For the united states, this is upsetting, because they expect deference and recognition of their superiority, but you can see China hold this same mindset even when negotiating with countries much poorer and less powerful than them, like Uganda or Canada; The best American diplomats have been able to grasp this fact, and have productive negotiations.

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      Trudeau is not an equal to Xi. Trudeau is not head of state and they broke their rules to have Xi meet with him in the first place.

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        Hadn’t heard that China’s reciprocity doesn’t discriminate between presidential and parliamentary systems… tbh, I’m not sure what purpose it would serve is Xi met with the Governor General instead

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    An important piece of context here is that Xi usually only meets heads of state. Trudeau is not the head of state of Canada, the monarch is.

    They bent the rules to have Xi meet with him and they fucked around and leaked it all. Say whatever you want about the queen when she was still alive she wouldn’t have leaked the contents of a meeting. Heads of state speaking to heads of state has to exist on a level of trust and this dude is such a fucking rat without respect that he couldn’t do the bare minimum.

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      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        I don’t think this is true, XJP regularly meets with heads of government. Plus the governor general for Canada is basically the pseudo head of state (and does do all the state visits and so forth that you’d expect).

        China’s policy was always for only equal positions in government to meet. Xi is head of state, Trudeau is not, it was an exception at the time that was made for meeting.

        This is also why Xi will not meet with Blinken despite the US requesting it multiple times, and instead Blinken is made to meet with Wang Yi instead.

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    • blame [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      From a purely technical perspective you’re right. But in reality the british crown does not negotiate for Canada. Canada is essentially sovereign but maintains some more or less ceremonial ties to the british crown.

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        Fake country

        • blame [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          no argument there

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        It’s not ceremonial. The Crown legally owns 89% of Canadian land. She (her representative) holds the power to appoint government and to dissolve it entirely. The Governor General is appointed by the monarch and also has the power to add up to 8 additional senators of their choice.

        More importantly, they can dismiss any sitting leader they want to. This power was the one used in Australia when Whitlam was removed, which is colloquially referred to here on Hexbear as the time Australia was couped by the CIA.

        These things are played down and scoffed about as “ceremonial” because they are rarely used powers. But they ARE powers, very very strong ones.

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          Alright well the fact remains that the british crown doesn’t negotiate trade deals or anything else on behalf of Canada, the Canadian government does all of that itself. This objection to Trudeau meeting Xi because he’s not the “real leader” is just pedantry. Yes the british crown maybe might be able to pull some power move but that’s not how things operate routinely.

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  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Chrétien being far and away the best pm in my lifetime is sad. At least he called Bush Jr a moron and his political scandals were low key and really really funny.

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      Kids these days don’t know what a Shawinigan handshake is and that’s sad 😞

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        Also remember the assassination attempt where someone broke in and threatened him with a plastic knife?

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          I forgot about that. And the classic “for me, pepper, I put it on my plate”

          Funniest PM we’ll ever have

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              I knew what it was gonna be before I clicked it

              Feel like shit just want him back fr

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        We need to bring em back…

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      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        He had silly little real estate schemes and he talked funny. He also kinda had an odd fact but I guess that was from paralysis or something but it was the 90s and we were out here being incredibly ableist

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      I loved learning about that time that some whacko was able to walk into the PM residence and surprised Mrs. Chrétien making tea in a night gown (my recollection of the specifics are fuzzy)

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    You can tell how annoyed he is. Hes like i cant deal with this bs im just gonna walk away. Probably cant wait to go home to China and get away from these liberal morons lol.

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    Yep absolute cinema, the good old days of… checks notes 2022. lol That the China we needed more of, it was moments like this that gave me the impression China was going to be a lot more adversarial going forward compared to the reality of what actually happened since then.

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    xigma-male

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    What’s the context here? what was in the leak?

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  • HexReplyBot [none/use name]@hexbear.netB
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    I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

    • yewtu.be
    • inv.nadeko.net
    • yt.artemislena.eu
    • piped.video
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    Kids table shit. They just let someone who has no diplomatic training whatsoever become prime minister, and negatively affect trade relations.

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