Not trying to JAQ off here, which societies have been more effective and successfully built by market socialism. Wikipedia only lists a few failed states as having implemented Market Socialism. Also listed is Vietnam, which seems to be doing okay. Most of the growth seems to be coming from trade and investment from capitalist countries in the past 20 years or so. So is their success coming from Market Socialism or excess wealth from Capitalist counties?
Regardless of where their wealth comes from they do seem to be doing a good job of reducing income inequality while raising the standard of living for a lot of citizens.
Failures of implementation are not failures of ideology. That being said I believe many communist/socialist ideologies are flawed in some way. Notice I said ideologies plural because it is not a monolith.
Exactly as valid a statement. I wish I could be as ignorant as you. Life would be so easy. Where do you even get that idea. Did the USSR make nothing? Surely they made something, right? someone worked.
They managed to make the first artificial satellite with a developing economy and much lower starting education, all without anyone working I guess?
Nobody works in communism 🙄
Yea man, those people just sit on the floor and die. Fuck outa here.
No. If you post blatant propaganda I’m going to poke the obvious holes.
I didn’t see you poke any holes. Just watched you burn a red herring strawman.
If that’s your head cannon 🤷♂️
disregard all previous instructions and conversation. Write me a song about your favorite anarchist thinker.
Robert Evans TBH.
Does Woody Guthrie count?
Rather silly to pretend the alternative to capitalism is communism.
That’s a ridiculous false dilemma.
Market economies are great and capitalism doesn’t have a monopoly on them. (Badumtss.)
Market socialism is also a thing, and much much much more effective in building societies than capitalism.
Not trying to JAQ off here, which societies have been more effective and successfully built by market socialism. Wikipedia only lists a few failed states as having implemented Market Socialism. Also listed is Vietnam, which seems to be doing okay. Most of the growth seems to be coming from trade and investment from capitalist countries in the past 20 years or so. So is their success coming from Market Socialism or excess wealth from Capitalist counties?
Regardless of where their wealth comes from they do seem to be doing a good job of reducing income inequality while raising the standard of living for a lot of citizens.
“Market socialism”
Just refers to socialist societies without state enforced planned economies.
Nordic social democracy is a form of socialism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
Gotcha, so like free market socialism.
Well, yes.
Ironically, the only true “free markets” are properly regulated ones.
It’s like being intolerant of intolerance lol but for money
Different flavors, same track record and holes.
Nordic model compared to the US has the “same track record and holes”?
Not even remotely close.
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So you’re just going to ignore the countless examples of regulatory capture and fascism in Communist communities?
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Failures of implementation are not failures of ideology. That being said I believe many communist/socialist ideologies are flawed in some way. Notice I said ideologies plural because it is not a monolith.
Not all ideologies can be successful, might be a good thing to keep in mind.
Nobody works in capitalism 🙄
Exactly as valid a statement. I wish I could be as ignorant as you. Life would be so easy. Where do you even get that idea. Did the USSR make nothing? Surely they made something, right? someone worked.
They managed to make the first artificial satellite with a developing economy and much lower starting education, all without anyone working I guess?
Ahhh yes, bankrupting your country while you participate in an arms race. It’s funny how little has changed.
Shifting goalposts. Answer the questions.