• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    You get this reaction because we’re anti war and you goons are only going to get millions of people killed trying to start shit. You’ve already gotten a million Ukrainians killed, and for what? Shit should have been negotiated at least 18 months ago when the writing was already on the wall but liberals wanted to sacrifice limitless lives just to hurt russia for the sake of american supremacy.

    May I remind you that Putin is literally the person liberals chose to run the country after you overthrew socialists? You fucks want him over us. Liberals literally created modern russia.

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      If you’re as “anti war” as you claim then you should be pointing all the blame for Ukrainian deaths at the country which invaded them, and the man who ordered the invasion.

      The Russian military got Ukrainians killed. Period.

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            I’ve never gotten an answer when I ask this, and it is honestly a sincere question. If I believed all the lib propaganda about the war, then I would have been in the first reddit brigade to get merced. I can’t imagine believing all that shit, saying it’s necessary and then just hiding behind a desk.

            • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              Same here

              I once had a lib say that any Ukranian who didn’t volunteer to fight is an absolute coward, which they posted from an air conditioned room in the middle of the US

              I pointed out that Ukraine still accepts volunteers and if they think that it’s cowardice to not fight, they were welcome to join up. Dead silent after that

          • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            Nononononono

            Liberals believe OTHER PEOPLE should die for their beliefs, which are obviously worth doing for, just not for them.

            Obviously them having those beliefs makes them too important to actually risk their own well being.

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          “The war began 12 April 2014, when a fifty-man commando unit headed by Russian citizen Igor Girkin seized Sloviansk in Donetsk oblast. […] Russia covertly supported the separatists with troops and weaponry. It only admitted sending “military specialists”, but later acknowledged the separatists as Russian combat veterans. […] By late August 2014, Ukraine had re-taken most separatist-held territory and nearly regained control of the Russia–Ukraine border. In response, Russia covertly sent troops, tanks and artillery into the Donbas.”

          There are plenty of sources listed in the Wikipedia article if you need them. The fighting in Donbass was a territorial annexation conducted by Russia against Ukraine and a precursor to the full-scale invasion that began in 2022. It’s no coincidence that this occurred at the same time as the invasion of Crimea.

          • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            So you basically only have a very very basic understanding fed to you via anonymous completely unverifiable people that built a narrative using entirely western sources?

            What’s your opinion on the 2014 coup?

            What’s your opinion on the language law change that sent 3 regions of Ukraine into revolt seeking independence because they genuinely feared for their lives?

            What’s your opinion on the trade unionists being burned alive?

            What’s your actual opinion? Not whatever you can google and dredge up to repeat from a completely different person as if it is your own view. What is YOUR opinion. When is the last time you actually investigated something and formed your own opinion rather than regurgitating someone elses?

          • brainw0rms [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            There are plenty of sources listed in the Wikipedia article if you need them.

            the geopolitical understander has logged on, it’s over lads

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            What do you think about Ukraine being a Nazi haven and Ukrainian fighters committing ISIS-style war crimes/using illegal cluster munitions in the Donbas? Curious for your opinion!

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            On that basis, do you think it was justified for Ukraine to bomb the region, kill people living there (which presumably they should want to save from Russia), and violate their ceasefire agreement?

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                Lmao you don’t engage with those that do, instead you choose to post shit like this. If you were actually interested you would answer the questions @[email protected] gave you, but you didn’t, because you don’t. This is what I’m talking about when I say you exist in an echo chamber

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                  This is a common pattern. Awoo is very good about engaging with liberals in good faith and asking questions that would be easy to answer if the person answering them has a genuine interest in the topic. For some reason, she tends to get ignored. Seems like a thankless task, really.

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                    I always enjoy seeing awoos polite takedowns and the stunning silence they leave, because I can always point to them when the intruding lib inevitably complains about being treated rudely and people not engaging in good faith. It’s like a failsafe. This is a perfect example.

                    @[email protected] thank you for your service rat-salute-2

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                    Ehh it’s the whole “the comment isn’t for the person you’re responding to, it’s for the reader”

                    Listening to a liberals dumb shit talking points they got filtered through colbert from the Biden campaign has no value.

                    Her showing that the liberals don’t have anything of substance to contribute other than reddit bot comments is way more valuable IMHO.

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        So it is already apparent that you think NATO encircling it’s enemies and waging war around the world is all good and fine but did you ever stop to question why, what am I getting out of this? Upholding neoliberal US hegemony harms everyone and helps no one.