How do y’all balance the importance and need to get involved and join an org with how cringy and critically flawed many of them are? I feel at a loss with this
Stuff like this also reminds me how spoiled I am with hexbear though, lol, because I’ve rarely ever seen something super cringy or lib without it getting informative and/or entertaining pushback. “Leftist” spaces on Reddit feel really confused, poorly read on theory, and infested with libs and ruiners. This place is kinda built different like that
CPUSA has been deeply infiltrated by feds for decades. I have no idea why anyone would waste their time and energy with them in 2023 when it’s obviously a honeypot
You find one marginally less cringe and hope for the best. The day to day work is generally less online.
The other option is to work via non party orgs. Food banks, unions, protest groups, and attempt to inject revolutionary theory into them. This is sometimes hard for more party centric tendencies to cope with though.
This statement is probably risking a rank and file split in CPUSA.
Ehhh, take out the food bank and all other charity groups from that list. The inherent structure of it makes it useless to radicalize
Do entryism in a mutual aid group instead that’s not anarchists (not sectarianism, just better to radicalize libs than trying to change other ideologies you don’t like)
I don’t know how PW relates to the party line, but I do know basically anyone can submit articles to it. It’s a super bad look though and they need to get their shit togeather.
Depends on who’s the writer. Theoretically they could have that actor clown general secretary write up an article saying if you don’t vote for Biden in 2024 you’re a fascist, and CPUSA could theoretically say the article is his own opinion and not the official line of the party
But that unto itself, the very face of their party writing that shit speaks volumes to the makeup of their party leadership from their local clubs all the way to the the central committee and the standing secretaries - if they even have those positions
CPUSA is kind of a special case in terms of “Real and once-productive org that has been 100% coopted”. That said, individual chapters of any org are often way more radical than the head, so what you should do is research what is active in your area (PCUSA, PSL, DSA, FNB, etc.) and just pick whatever seems the best or most viable for you. Waiting for something perfect to emerge to hitch your wagon to is an exercise in futility. Very few of us like the central authority of any of these orgs, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t individuals doing good work in their community.
I’m torn between be a splitter and join the pre established party and really encourage other young leftists to do so as well cause the old guard is old and few and I do think reactionary elements like this need to be pruned from the party rather than constantly starting over from zero. In a case like this I don’t really know if there would be any difference
If you’re in no orgs and don’t know your local landscape very well, join the largest org in your area that you can stomach and use it to gain practical organizing skills and a network of people that know other organizers. Prepare to see people have terrible takes. Become comfortable with not reacting to them.
Use this opportunity to feel out whether there are other people in the org that are cool like you and what other orgs are out there. Once you have da skills, either start doing work primarily with the cool people or join a better org. In the former case, do your best to politically educate all of your comrades about your work - you don’t need to make a clique, but you’ll have a much better time with the org if people have your back during strategy meetings. If your org doesn’t have strategy meetings that’s a sign that it sucks and you’ll either have to take it over for it to be useful or just bail to an org that does have them.
How do y’all balance the importance and need to get involved and join an org with how cringy and critically flawed many of them are? I feel at a loss with this
Stuff like this also reminds me how spoiled I am with hexbear though, lol, because I’ve rarely ever seen something super cringy or lib without it getting informative and/or entertaining pushback. “Leftist” spaces on Reddit feel really confused, poorly read on theory, and infested with libs and ruiners. This place is kinda built different like that
CPUSA has been deeply infiltrated by feds for decades. I have no idea why anyone would waste their time and energy with them in 2023 when it’s obviously a honeypot
Didn’t they jump on the Maupin wagon just minutes after his sex crimes were revealed?
That was Party for Communists. CPUSA is against patsocs at least.
You find one marginally less cringe and hope for the best. The day to day work is generally less online.
The other option is to work via non party orgs. Food banks, unions, protest groups, and attempt to inject revolutionary theory into them. This is sometimes hard for more party centric tendencies to cope with though.
This statement is probably risking a rank and file split in CPUSA.
Ehhh, take out the food bank and all other charity groups from that list. The inherent structure of it makes it useless to radicalize
Do entryism in a mutual aid group instead that’s not anarchists (not sectarianism, just better to radicalize libs than trying to change other ideologies you don’t like)
Obviously the answer is to never touch grass and keep posting
you become a doomer and pray every day that the West is just completely destroyed
Inshallah
I don’t know how PW relates to the party line, but I do know basically anyone can submit articles to it. It’s a super bad look though and they need to get their shit togeather.
Depends on who’s the writer. Theoretically they could have that actor clown general secretary write up an article saying if you don’t vote for Biden in 2024 you’re a fascist, and CPUSA could theoretically say the article is his own opinion and not the official line of the party
But that unto itself, the very face of their party writing that shit speaks volumes to the makeup of their party leadership from their local clubs all the way to the the central committee and the standing secretaries - if they even have those positions
CPUSA is kind of a special case in terms of “Real and once-productive org that has been 100% coopted”. That said, individual chapters of any org are often way more radical than the head, so what you should do is research what is active in your area (PCUSA, PSL, DSA, FNB, etc.) and just pick whatever seems the best or most viable for you. Waiting for something perfect to emerge to hitch your wagon to is an exercise in futility. Very few of us like the central authority of any of these orgs, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t individuals doing good work in their community.
I’m torn between be a splitter and join the pre established party and really encourage other young leftists to do so as well cause the old guard is old and few and I do think reactionary elements like this need to be pruned from the party rather than constantly starting over from zero. In a case like this I don’t really know if there would be any difference
If you’re in no orgs and don’t know your local landscape very well, join the largest org in your area that you can stomach and use it to gain practical organizing skills and a network of people that know other organizers. Prepare to see people have terrible takes. Become comfortable with not reacting to them.
Use this opportunity to feel out whether there are other people in the org that are cool like you and what other orgs are out there. Once you have da skills, either start doing work primarily with the cool people or join a better org. In the former case, do your best to politically educate all of your comrades about your work - you don’t need to make a clique, but you’ll have a much better time with the org if people have your back during strategy meetings. If your org doesn’t have strategy meetings that’s a sign that it sucks and you’ll either have to take it over for it to be useful or just bail to an org that does have them.
There’s really no point to organizing in the imperial core, either try and leave or go grill pill and stop guilt tripping yourself