I watch a fair amount of series, but I’m not a data hoarder. I see the value in 2GB episodes, but I watch most series on my laptop, my simple 1920x1080 tv or even my phone where that value doesn’t make a difference. If I want to have a theater experience, I’ll go to the theater.
Most of the times I just want to enjoy a good story and relax before I go to bed.
I don’t have infinite storage and I hate when I want to download something new, but Im out of storage, so I have to delete stuff first.
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I paid for this 4k TV, so damn it I want all the pixels!
Seriously though, resolution is only half the equation. Bitrate, HDR, and compression methods are very important as well.
Not on my 65" 8k OLED they aren’t! You can absolutely tell the difference.
Smaller/low res screens though, sure.
That’s what I’m saying; not everyone watches media on their phones. I have a Plex server at home with a projector and a mediocre 5.1 (not a HTIB). No way I’m running anything less than 1080p.
Ha, yeah. I work from home, and when I’m out the last thing I want to do is look at my phone.
So I watch films at home. I paid for a high end home cinema set up, I’m gonna make the most of it. Otherwise it’s just a waste.
This may change as I’m having to downscale a bit for my new apartment…but yeah, 200mb still won’t be enough.
The rise of HEVC and AV1 is arriving! Keeping the quality with a smaller file size. Plex and most android devices support AV1 now too!
Good enough for who? You? Sure. But not everyone watches on a small screen. Some people might actually care about the quality too. Some of us can’t goto the theatre.
2GB isn’t large by any stretch. There are 720p versions of pretty much everything (at least that’s what I see on most Usenet Indexers). You could easily get a multiple terabyte external drive if your internal storage is full.
A family of 4 going to the theater is about 1TB of external SSD. Nowadays they are smaller than your regular phone.
This is going to be my new way of measuring “worth” how many TBs of SSD storage does thing X equate to lol.
The Chev principle
Jesus, those really are cheap nowadays aren’t they
Yeah complaining about storage space in 2023 is a bit silly. You can go on eBay right now and get a used 4TB SATA drive for $25. Even cheaper if you get SAS drives, you just need a SAS expansion card which is also around $20 or so. 6TB SAS drives are going for $30.
ISP data caps are a bigger enemy than raw storage capacity these days. It costs me $50/mo to remove my 1TB cap. Which means it is more expensive to download 6TB than it is to buy 6TB of physical storage. And even SSDs are dirt cheap now. Storage has never been cheaper.
Am I the only one that doesn’t like the idea of used hard drives?
You are not. I wouldn’t trust a used hard drive in any way.
Not even in a zfs raidz2 of just 5 drives?
I am using unRAID so if one dies I can just replace it. About 4 years ago I bought a lot of fifteen 3TB SAS drives and I have had them running 24/7 since then. Funny enough not a single one has died. They all had around 5 years of power-on hours and now they are up to 9 and still going strong. Honestly I expected to lose at least one per year but they are surprisingly resilient.
Fair enough. Also using Unraid so I guess overall it’s not a bad idea. I just need to actually get the damn things.
I didn’t know data caps are still a thing. Where is this?
The good ol’ United States. Most of the major ISPs have caps here and you do not really have multiple choices because they basically have monopolies in their respective areas.
I did not know that! I remember data caps being a thing here in the middle of Europe in the early 2000s. There haven’t been data caps for home internet connections for a long time.
I’d even say that going to the theater sucks balls. The picture and sound quality usually sucks compared to a high quality download on a 75" 4k TV. Even a high bit rate 1080p video looks better than the theater.
It costs ,e over $100 to take the family out for a movie. As someone on disability right now that $100 is better spent on other things (Like a years worth of Usenet service ;) )
I see usenet, I upvote. Not on Reddit anymore but still a simple man.
500mb 1080p HEVC for most shows on a 75" TV, but if it’s a space sci-fi show with lots of dark scenes I need that 1GB-2GB episode.
Some shows get by on 200MB, but it depends how static the scenes are and how much lighting there is.
Surely at that size you would notice the artifacts. Just for my sake can you try a Bluray remux. I expect it’s 4k so you could just grab a 4k web-DL and see if you can notice the difference.
Depends, for animation there’s no artifacts say that size
Yeah, I agree, I can understand wanting higher resolutions but there are diminishing returns and even 1 GB for a half-hour episode is pretty absurd.
Plus, you can’t seed what you can’t keep.
I downloaded some 200mb episodes on telegram but I’ve never seen such bs before. Because of that I only download from the Usenet and have a look on the nfo before.
I usually aim for 1080p top, since all my screens resultion don’t go above that.
Sometime even 720p, depends on how many seeders.
I really shot myself in the foot downloading 4k60 versions of some of my favorite movies. The quality is great, but I can really only watch them on my gaming pc.
Agreed, since I mostly watch stuff on my not-4K laptop or my not-4K phone.
For people who like to watch stuff on huge 4K screens and stuff, they’ll require higher quality videos, but as long as everyone has their needs meet I’m more than fine.
Yeah, 300-350MB h265 is great for anime. The 1GB+ are fine and all, but I’d rather save storage space.
Anime encoders squeeze the most out of the h265 codec… Its astounding how they achieve great quality video for the filesize, even in scenes with fast motion or odd vignettes/filters
Even the highest quality anime isn’t very complex compared to any live-action footage so it compresses incredibly well. The better groups also use vapoursynth filters to fix errors on the blu-rays like bad anti-aliasing and banding. So the best encodes will actually look better than a remux which is never going to happen with live-action.
720p for most tv shows is fine for me. 1080p for films.
1337x has tons of episodes that are that size. It seems to either be ~200mb or 2gb+ though. It would be cool if there were a nice middle ground.
Get better sources then
Well that is a super helpful comment. 🙄
couldn’t agree more. I watch pretty much everything on a 50" 720p TV from 10ish years ago. as long as its not some god awful 240p pixelated garbage, I’m fine. When I go over to some buddies places where they have newer nicer tvs and the qaulity is better, I still am 99% focused on story and idaf about the pockmarks on someones face etc.
I don’t hate extra quality but end of the day, i want to prioritize disk space without having complete garbage on quality. love it when encoders can do stuff in x265 instead of x264 to cut off a few extra MB.
i have a theory that when quality started going crazy (2K by my mark) is about the same time where story quality in tv shows started taking a big dive. Byt I’m sure lot of ppl not agree lol.
As long as you are happy with that, all good. Fuck the people that sets a standard for you.
