Socdem is bad because capitalism etc etc I understand that, but I saw some people in here saying that socdem is OBJECTIVELY the moderate branch of fascism, which I don’t really understand, because most socdems I know just want their basic welfare system, but are far from nationalism, advocating for genocide etc

I know it’s still bad but for example in spain I feel there’s a big difference between the francoist spain and the socdem wannabe spain, for the better

So please explain, and feel free to call out any brainworms that I might (probably) have shown in here

This could also just be a very funny line, like the “unlimited genocide on the first world” thing, idk

  • durruticore [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
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    25 days ago

    What’s the WP?

    Also I did know about cases of socdems betraying communists, but I didn’t understand exactly how it’s exactly moderate fascism, is it less about ideological agreement and more about the socdems’ actions benefiting the fash?

    • SkeletorJesus [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      9·
      25 days ago

      It’s more that socdems advocate for a “reformed”/“modified”/“controlled” capitalism, which is still capitalism, and fascism (as Stalin defined it) is a reaction by capital to the revolutionary left. Therefore, by maintaining capitalism, they maintain fascism.

    • Sinisterium@hexbear.netEnglish
      1·
      24 days ago

      Because socdems work with fascist to archive it. Like Noske most famously. If you send Police/literally proto nazis to gun down workers, is really important that you yap about how there is tots going to be harm reduction!! socdem parties of modern Europe also participated in colonial crimes, hell most of europe right now has social democratic parties in government or had recently and look at what that has done.