And they said we should just accept it on their credibility.

I had the occasion to look this up again, so I thought I should post it for more than the shitlib I got it for (so now it’s also for the three of you sorting by new at this hour)

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    Is your implication that the US was wrong?

    As if it’s beyond russia to lie or use propaganda or invade Ukraine?

    Them calling this out was a good preemptive move either way. It makes Russia wonder how strong their source and evidence are and think twice about getting caught in another massive lie.

    The mere announcement of this may have saved Russian citizens’ lives from their own dictator’s ruthlessness… though it probably led to a few insiders falling out of windows.

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      Is your implication that the US was wrong?

      No, my implication is that the US was lying

      As if it’s beyond russia to lie or use propaganda

      Lying is not a flat binary. What they are suggesting is quite elaborate. Did you watch the video? As the reporter says, it’s some Alex Jones shit.

      Them calling this out was a good preemptive move either way. It makes Russia wonder how strong their source and evidence are and think twice about getting caught in another massive lie.

      Like the pipeline, the prison, the dam, that one whole fucking town, or . . . wait, no, I must be thinking of something else

      The mere announcement of this may have saved Russian citizens’ lives from their own dictator’s ruthlessness… though it probably led to a few insiders falling out of windows.

      An excellent demonstration of why Ned “NED” Price was practicing an effective strategy, because even if it’s totally false the US can still take credit for stopping an atrocity that was never going to happen and rubes will eat it up proactively if they even remember it at all.

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      I think the general consensus is that the US State Department is the government version of Jim Cramer. If you just believe the opposite of what they say, you’re usually correct.

      (With the usual caveats of critical reading, checking sources, blah blah. It’s a good jumping off point.)

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      The civil war in the Donbas is Russian disinformation. The Cold War, the destruction of the USSR, and the subsequent pillaging by the NATO aligned west is Russian disinformation. I am American and I’ve never even spoken to a person from Russia or any part of the Soviet Union. I am not a rube easily manipulated by 3 minutes of television programming.

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      A good idea before you start smugly bloviating about the dastardly Russkies is to not immediately out yourself as a credulous rube that believes whatever the government tells you.