Yeah, I pick up a lot of this reading and listening to Penrose.
I kinda think about it like the evolution of eyes. So, for a while creationists liked to point to eyes and say, “how could such a structure slowly evolve, what good is half an eye?” and of course the answer is, “far preferable to no eye whatsoever.” And there’s evidence of development from rudimentary sensitivity to electromagnetism, gradually improving with lenses and pin-hole apertures and colour specific structures.
So… I think about sentience in that same means of gradually increasing complexity. Cus like you can say a brain is integral, but how does it start? Where doe the phenomenon actually begin? I think it makes sense to suppose some equivalent to that patch of photo-sensitivity that eventually becomes an eye. Microtubuals pose the most likely candidate for that role, though yeah it’s still tentative. And… if we’re gonna assume some minimal level of awareness, I don’t think it’s that big of a stretch to suppose it exists in things that react to their environment.
And that’s where the similarity to pan-psychism ends. Why should I make that assumption for a virus or a rock or a hydrogen atom? Those aren’t cells. They don’t react to their environment or reproduce on their own. A universe where those things are conscious would be functionally identical to one where they aren’t.
Yeah, I pick up a lot of this reading and listening to Penrose.
I kinda think about it like the evolution of eyes. So, for a while creationists liked to point to eyes and say, “how could such a structure slowly evolve, what good is half an eye?” and of course the answer is, “far preferable to no eye whatsoever.” And there’s evidence of development from rudimentary sensitivity to electromagnetism, gradually improving with lenses and pin-hole apertures and colour specific structures.
So… I think about sentience in that same means of gradually increasing complexity. Cus like you can say a brain is integral, but how does it start? Where doe the phenomenon actually begin? I think it makes sense to suppose some equivalent to that patch of photo-sensitivity that eventually becomes an eye. Microtubuals pose the most likely candidate for that role, though yeah it’s still tentative. And… if we’re gonna assume some minimal level of awareness, I don’t think it’s that big of a stretch to suppose it exists in things that react to their environment.
And that’s where the similarity to pan-psychism ends. Why should I make that assumption for a virus or a rock or a hydrogen atom? Those aren’t cells. They don’t react to their environment or reproduce on their own. A universe where those things are conscious would be functionally identical to one where they aren’t.