• Edamamebean [she/her]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      59
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Also fucking idiotic. Do teachers who do this really think it discourages the disruptive kid, or rather encourages them by giving them the incredible power of fucking up the day of several dozen other kids?

      • KhanCipher [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        36
        ·
        3 months ago

        Do teachers who do this really think it discourages the disruptive kid

        The key thing here is that this isn’t designed to directly discourage the kid, the purpose of doing this is to get the other kids to let’s say do some creative persuasion techniques to not do that again. You might recognize this as one of the stereotypical methods that a military would do when dealing with problem soldier, punish the whole unit/squad instead of the single soldier.

      • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        3 months ago

        If that kid continues to intentionally fuck up the day of every other person in the class the rest of the class gets sick of it and beats their ass.

        Or, in reality, it changes the actions of the asshole from a funny thing all the other kids laugh at and encourage to an annoying thing where everybody else tells them to fuck off because it keeps ruining their day and they stop because they aremt gettingnpositive reingorcement from it.

        Are we really gonna do another round of the “homework is fascism and bedtimes are against human rights” struggle session.

          • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            3 months ago

            I think if most people reflect honestly they probablly weren’t as blameless as a shit head pre teen towards their teachers as they liked to tell themselves at the time.

            The reason the teacher punishes the whole class is if the whole class is giggling and egging on the problem student.

            If the rest of the class is also sick of the kids shit it becomes way less of an issue.

            • keepcarrot [she/her]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              3 months ago

              Like, I understand how it works, I just don’t think it’s right. Then again, teachers don’t get paid enough to deal with this sort of thing

              • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                3 months ago

                Honestly not to string up my boots too tight but I don’t think it’s a bad thing to instill in children the shotty decisions of their peers affects them negatively.

                I dont think we should be locking up kids or doing corporal punishment but I don’t think it’s the worst thing to understand there’s assholes among them that society has to protect against and its a big reason for a lot of negative aspects of their daily life.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          ·
          3 months ago

          Are we really gonna do another round of the “homework is fascism and bedtimes are against human rights” struggle session.

          Some bad teachers do lose their cool and actually encourage further distraction in the classroom; usually just rolling with it for a few moments lets the incident fizzle out on its own.

          Some kids are assholes (the outright bullies, for example) and being patient and cool with them often doesn’t help, either. There’s no easy answers for the asshole kids, but knee-jerk “no veggies for dinner, no bedtimes” spite positions are definitely the kinds those asshole kids would also go for.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          11
          ·
          3 months ago

          Or it unites the class in solidarity against the teacher.

          Plus the kid almost certainly has adhd or something and the teacher is trying to turn the class on them for being nd.

          • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            ·
            3 months ago

            In my experience it was always a kid being a shithead. Kids are unrepentant assholes especially if you put 20 of them in the room and try to make them learn something. In my extremely consistent experience they’re the same shitheads that complains school didn’t teach them anything useful despite the fact I was sitting next to them in the class where that was being taught but they were just playing the penis game instead.

            I have never seen or heard of a teacher punishing a class for the shortcomings of an ND student, that reads an awful lot like climate protestors are bad because every vehicle is being driven by an incorrectly chatged innocent individual on his way to a parole hearing.

            We had ND kids in my school, I got along with most of them they were all stoked when we got to the seperated classes and we could actually focus on learning physics because the teacher didn’t have to argue with students that they couldn’t dip in class and they had heard them call her a removed everytime she walked by their desk.

          • CloutAtlas [he/him]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            3 months ago

            The dickhead in my class was just being an attention seeking dickhead. Yelling “Sieg heil!” and goose stepping for laughs and views in the middle of class wasn’t due to ADHD, he just wanted people to notice him. He’s 30 now and a bouncer/deadbeat dad.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        Had it pulled on classes I was in in Jr high, we figured out that if that’s the threat we might as well all be disruptive. Collective punishment is a great way to foster collective resistance, what are we gonna do, beat the kid that got us in trouble in his bunk with bars or soap in socks who probably was doing something that made us laugh or the teacher who we all probably hate already and is the one who made that choice?

    • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      3 months ago

      I just rolled with those moments and often they resolved themselves if I kept my cool or even joined in.

      One example was a kid that was outright breakdancing before the first bell right in the middle of the classroom.

      I (truthfully) acknowledged he was amazing but that he had til the second bell to clear out. He spun on his head and shoulder like a top and the first kids to come in had a good time watching before they started sliding desks into place.

      sicko-jammin

    • Weedian [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      3 months ago

      I hope its an English class where their next assignment is writing a persuasive essay and one student’s topic is “why our teacher should be tried at the Hague for crimes against humanity”

  • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    67
    ·
    3 months ago

    I’m old enough that saying these words around my young nephews and nieces gets such a funny reaction. I’m on the frontlines of making these words uncool you’re welcome

    • gueybana [any]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      42
      ·
      3 months ago

      I’m firmly millenial but the idea of some 10 year old belting out the lyrics of his generation is so fucking funny

        • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          27
          ·
          3 months ago

          We had this dumbfuck asshole who started singing The Bad Touch by The Bloodhound Gang. He shouted “Stick your hand down my pants and I’ll bet you’ll feel nuts!” in the middle of the teacher’s lecture, who was also a dumbfuck asshole and proceeded to lose his shit and they got in an argument for like half an hour over whether or not it was okay to sing songs in class.

          Middle school was largely a waste of time. High school too, but also middle school.

          • roux [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            11
            ·
            3 months ago

            One of my best middle school stories(and best is subjective since kids can be mean) but in 8th grade history I had class with one of the class clowns. He was a good dude but when he got going he couldn’t stop. I forget what he was doing, like a silly voice or fart noises but the entire class was the teacher telling him to stop and him simply not obliging. The teacher ended up having a breakdown and started crying and left the room. A sub showed up right when class was dismissed. It was wild.

            It was kids being kids but I also think about it occasionally and it reminds me to try to be good to people. I can get carried away on humor, not that bad but it was a good way of learning how to gauge the room.

          • roux [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            3 months ago

            I took French. Our teacher was a single 40-something year old that still lived with his mom but he was alright. I asked him how to say a lot of the dirty words and he actually told me a few. I also asked how to say Cannibal Corpse because that was the semester I dipped out and went to Chicago to see them lol.

            Side note but our youngest will use a hard C when he tried to talk and it makes him sound like a tiny drunken German trying to speak broken English lol.

    • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Skibidi toilet is a millennial-coded meme

      Zoomers hate it bc it’s “too stupid” and not edgy or political enough to have a dedicated punchline

      it looks like it was made in orange box and it’s the scatman singing nonsense, both things that materialized and got popular respectively, around 2010

      The Boomer --> Millennial --> Alpha and
      Xer --> Zoomer --> ???
      chain continues
      high dopamine contentness and convolution of randomness vs. softer muted (but sometimes very hyper) aesthetics

      • gueybana [any]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        3 months ago

        I know a gen alpha kid who inhales skibidi sigma memes all day and this kid is the embodiment of pure chaos.

        Based off sample size of 1 and their memes, I’m going to say they will be the mad max generation

  • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    3 months ago

    In my experience, if I just rolled with it, or even briefly joined in, my sheer old people energy would divert the momentum and class would resume. troll

    • RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      “Mooom, today the teacher asked what would we wanted to be when grown up, and I told him “rich and famous like Elon Musk” and he started twitching and saying stuff like “double colon corporate art, double colon stonks, double colon pathethic””