you’re advocating for the intentional drowning of people for the horrible crime of… wanting to enter your country?

not sure what new evil migrants can bring to your homeland when you exist

I think that’s a fair take and perhaps indicates you’d lean anarchist-left. Direct action, mutual aid, and forming parallel power structures are the exact political and social activities that are core to that philosophy. Not exclusively so, but anarchists emphasize that kind of thing over activities like voting or, I guess, awaiting revolution.

I have mixed feelings myself, that kind of natural transformation won’t just be left alone to evolve, it’ll be actively resisted by powerful political and global forces, the United States and its allies would not allow it, for example. So in that sense a powerful political organization manifesting as a new revolutionary state does seem more likely to work to me, similar to how feudalism and monarchy resisted liberalism and had to be resisted through war.

Funny enough a big reason there’s animosity between leftists, especially between anarchists and Marxist-Leninists, is because anarchist experiments were sabotaged and anarchists were fought by “Communists” during the Spanish civil war even as they together fought against Fascists. You’d think a “communist vanguard state” with the goal of establishing communism would be supportive of autonomous anarchist collectives, but those leftists weren’t under the thumb of the Soviet Union. I think this pretty clearly demonstrated that the USSR wasn’t interested in anything but Empire.

Those states, according to theory, are meant to be a transition TO communism, but of course many things can go wrong in that process, and we’re kinda right back at the situation portrayed in the meme.

Despite my spat with the ML leftists in this thread, I see why the idea of a communist Vanguard state is appealing. I also see how a state which transforms into socialism or communism must be “authoritarian” in that it has to take away factories and land from those that keep it as capital, so that it can be shared. These states also had to contend with constant sabotage and aggression from the Liberal Democracies of the West who feared worker revolution coming to their own land.

Anarchists are a more idealistic bunch and generally strive to build parallel power structures and organizations of people and so try to construct a new order upwards. In practice it’s hard to imagine that method being able to replace nation states, especially with similar external sabotage on top of the existing internal challenges of running an equal society. Dictatorships and blind supporters of authoritarian leaders are hard to best in terms of efficiency.

Both approaches seek to accomplish communism, anarchists want to have their dessert right away, Marxist-Leninists believe the wolf will take care of them just as soon as he’s done eating his enemies.

There has never been a communist state, not as a cop-out, but because there is no state in communism by definition. These states claim that they’re transitional towards communism.

Rich for Marxists to throw out “anarchism has never worked when tried” lol. (Also isn’t true, see link).

But granted, maybe there’s a more charitable interpretation of their comments.

Not theory, refutation of the bullshit that anarchism necessitates forced labor. I don’t care what that poster thinks, I care that readers aren’t misled.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works

Lol this maymay cracked me up good internet joke i hope u get many points

You are conflating communism with authoritarianism as is commonly done on purpose or by accident to invalidate it. Anarchists are also often Communists and they oppose democracy for its oppressive properties as compared to consensus building and free association, that’s a critique of democracy from an even more libertarian perspective.

Socialists and Communists also believe in the democratization of the economy, so that a capitalist owner class doesn’t get to dictate how our labor and resources are allocated.

If you truly believe in freedom, you might be interested in anarcho-communism or socialism. Liberal democracy isn’t as free as you think.

Brain structures aren’t so dissimilar, unless you believe there’s some metaphysical quantity to consciousness this kind of technology will be how we do achieve general AI

I get that it’s cool to hate on how AI is being shoved in our faces everywhere and I agree with that sentiment, but the technology is better than what you’re giving it credit for.

You don’t have to diminish the accomplishments of the actual people who studied and built these impressive things to point out that business are bandwagoning and rushing to get to market to satisfy investors. like with most technologies it’s capitalism that’s the problem.

LLMs emulate neural structures and have incredible natural language parsing capabilities that we’ve never even come close to accomplishing before. The prompt hacks alone are an incredibly interesting glance at how close these things come to “understanding.” They’re more like social engineering than any other kind of hack.

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Yeah you can tell there are KPIs tied to bonuses causing this. Corporate culture is trash

Damn didn’t think I’d convince you you’re ignorant so quickly. Thanks for sticking around. Seems like all you do is comment on lemmy so maybe I’ll call this conversation done with myself.

I’m devastated, I don’t interact with enough ignorant fucks in my life and I’m really going to miss you when you stop compulsively trying to get the last word in

Every time you’re given an opportunity to educate yourself, you seem to reject it. Is that a problem with anarchists or with you?

Frankly I don’t think anyone here cares what you think, you’re only hurting yourself with your willful ignorance.

Turns out reading is an important way to learn.

Example of successful monarchies without a monarch?

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Oh sorry didn’t realize it’s sparkling construction equipment I guess these killings are fine

That’s fair nuance, I was reacting to the sentiment generally, but you have a point with this individual.

I see the same sentiment directed towards any government official or well off supporter of socialism and to me it rhymes with “but you use iPhone!” in that it’s invalid criticism as a general rule.

Your point stands in this case though, and so if anything I’m off topic.

While you have a point this kind of self sabotage is why we’re letting the Overton window fly right.

Accept rich people who support leftist causes. Accept wealthy politicians that support leftist causes.

Under our system single moms with 3 jobs, ex felons, underprivileged families, simply do not have the power to speak out for themselves.

Your criteria just means you’ll never get help from anyone with power. You can’t alienate everybody with the resources to help.