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I’m from Greece. I’ve heard numerous stories from the victims themselves, the ones that managed to survive. This is all true and just the tip of the iceberg.
It happens to the Evros river as well where people from Turkey come from.
There was a shipwreck in Pylos with hundreds drowned last year.
And there are many cases from people that are rescued that later are returned or tortured.
The ones that manage to get a staying permit as official refugees, are treated by most government offices with inequality and lies.
Border guards in the EU are fascist scum. This happens on every external EU border, not just in Greece.
Calling bullshit, given you made an emotional argument with no backup and coastlines are protected on an individual basis it is unlikely there is coordination in their law breaking
You are defending willful negligence that leads to the deaths of migrants.
Up to 1 in 13 migrants die in the Mediterranean. Italy as well as Greece have been allowing migrants to die as a part of deterrence-based migration policy. Rescuing the passengers of capsized migrant vessels has been criminalized. There are plenty of articles that confirm these facts. Here is one example.
I am not defending that, I am arguing against a claim. Being on the right side of an argument doesnt allow anyone to make up or exaggerate facts.
While I agree with your statement, there is also a difference in how awful we are, between allowing capsized vessels to just take their course and if we deliberately throw migrants overboard, as this post says is happening in Greece.
Is it really so different though? The outcome of both situations is the same. Migrants are dying, through direct action and deliberate inaction.
Mediterranean nations have the opportunity to protect lives, but instead they choose kill / let migrants die.
Yes it is. Might as well start an invasion of half the middle east if inaction is the same thing as active murder.
When a government is informed that people are dying within its waters, and the gov has the capability to respond but deliberately chooses not to because the victims are “african”, you think that the government bears no responsibity for their deaths?
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There doesn’t need to be any coordinartion, since the ideology comes from the top. Their job is to stop brown and black refugees, so white supremacy is not only a personal ideology but a job requirement.
What top? The EU has been wholly committed to taking in migrants at the highest level, how is it that the opposite sentiment trickles down?
So just made up fantasy stuff. Got it. Until you provide some evidence this is fake news.
What “news”, WTF are you on about? I consider them fascists because of their role, which is very well documented, f.e. in the above article. That’s what they do.
Have a source from me then.
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The fact that this is breaking on the BBC, also should tell you something about the state of press freedom in Mitsotakis’ Greece.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
But in four of these cases we were able to corroborate accounts by speaking with eye witnesses.Our research, which features in a new BBC documentary, Dead Calm: Killing in the Med?, suggested a clear pattern.
"He and two others - another from Cameroon and a man from Ivory Coast - were transferred to a Greek coastguard boat, he said, where events took a terrifying turn.“They started with the [other] Cameroonian.
Dead Calm: Killing in the Med?In June 2023, an overloaded trawler flips in front of a Greek coast guard patrol boat.
Our interviewee made it to land where he was eventually spotted by the Turkish coastguard.In the incident with the highest loss of life - in September 2022 - a boat carrying 85 migrants ran into trouble near the Greek island of Rhodes when its motor cut out.Mohamed, from Syria, told us they rang the Greek coastguard for help - who loaded them onto a boat, returned them to Turkish waters and put them in life rafts.
Human rights groups allege thousands of people seeking asylum in Europe have been illegally forced back from Greece to Turkey and denied the right to seek asylum, which is enshrined in international and EU law.Austrian activist Fayad Mulla told us he discovered for himself how secretive such operations seem to be in February last year, on the Greek island of Lesbos.
He replied that they “drive them back”, and said such orders were “from the minister”, adding they would be punished if they failed to stop a boat.Greece has always denied so-called “pushbacks” are taking place.Greece is an entryway into Europe for many migrants.
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This tl;dr does not do the article justice. Highly recommend everyone read the article.
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you’re advocating for the intentional drowning of people for the horrible crime of… wanting to enter your country?
not sure what new evil migrants can bring to your homeland when you exist
