How exactly is that a strawman argument? You act like technology does nothing for us. I agree that fighting for higher wages and other protections also makes things better. I don’t understand why any of this makes the luddites right. Tech literally does work for us. You say tech makes people appear richer but it really only hurts us. What about medicine? What about the learning we can do through the Internet? What about the million other things that we can do that our ancestors couldn’t?

Yeah bring back telephone operators too while we’re at it! No one should ever lose a job! Jobs are a person’s whole life and they should get to do it even if something else could do it better!

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Stopping tech from taking jobs just doesn’t make any sense. If we did have the perfect economic system, having that tech would lower the overall amount of work that needs to be done. That is a good thing. We should fight for fair labor practices, but fighting to keep labor itself around is the wrong idea. Why keep useless jobs around? Just to keep people employed?

Important note: Those prices are per year.

I could use a good site like this

I completed a ticket made in 2011 today!

Ok but seriously they are starving their people and literally kill them and possibly their families if they try to leave.

How is DPRK not authoritarian? Are you seriously standing up for that country?

All of the countries you just named are or were authoritarian.

That’s terrifying. It will allow so many people to be hurt even faster in the meantime.

What do we actually do about this though? I want to make things better, but how? Not voting at all doesn’t feel like sending a message. It feels like apathy. I also think it needs to happen with as little violence as possible. It needs to be someone that is voted in. We can’t let violence decide because that always seems to end with some kind of authoritarian government.

I do plan on reading more. Out of curiosity though, what do you think an average person could do right now?

No but it’s part of it. Idk what else I can do right now besides try to get people on the same page. I wish I had a better suggestion. Also, we aren’t random posters. Being on this forum means we care more than the average person. We’re more likely to actually talk about stuff like this to people in our lives.

Organizing takes time and we clearly haven’t gotten the message out well enough yet. We need to be on the defensive until there is enough support to really change things. Most people outside of forums like this don’t even understand what’s happening.

I agree but we need to block until we can strategize, build class consciousness, and actually organize to do something.

At least Dems aren’t spewing as much hate for minorities. Also, the infrastructure bill Biden implemented was actually pretty good. Republicans want to actively dismantle things like the Environmental Protection Agency. If there was another option that had a chance of winning I would vote for them. We need to figure out a way to build that. Until then, we need to at least delay the worst of it.

What would “seeing the doctor” be though? Civil war? World wide war? I’m afraid that if that would happen now, the fascists would win. It seems to me that they’re capable of standing together and ready to fight. People on the left don’t have that. We splinter ourselves based on smaller differences instead of working together for small incremental progress. If republicans lose several elections in a row, they’ll eventually figure out they have to change tactics to stay relevant and maybe things can start shifting left.

You need to still vote Democrat. Even if they aren’t perfect, they’re still better than letting a Republican in. Republicans always vote.

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I’m tired of religious people doing the same