• Nate Cox@programming.dev
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      2 months ago

      I’ve tried this, and I think it’s worth providing a more powerful console if playing on the tv is your primary use case.

      It works fine but it doesn’t really hold up to the 4k 60fps HDR experience that most people are getting used to from the main console makers.

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        4k 60fps HDR experience that most people are getting used to from the main console makers

        What games are you playing on console where you are actually getting 4k native resolution at 60fps?

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              Forza Motorsport will do 4k60 on Series X for example. Most Racing and Sports games will do 4k60 on modern consoles since they’re easy to render.

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                No, Forza Motorsport uses dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k in Performance mode, and in Quality mode it also uses dynamic resolution but targets 30fps.

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              On the ps5: FF14, borderlands 3, Monster Hunter: World, Destiny 2, Metro Exodus, Far Cry 6, Resident Evil: Village, etc…

              Most of them run dynamic 4k so there is periodic upscaling which is seamless in my experience.

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                I was asking specifically about native 4K games, not dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k.

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                    I agree with your original comment; it’s worth using a dedicated PC for gaming on the TV. But I think your second sentence is just parroting current-gen console marketing. It’s not actually true that current-gen consoles are providing a 4k@60 HDR experience.

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                  It’s been rereleased and enhanced for modern consoles, if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? Lmfao.

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                    if you wanted an answer why are you arguing?

                    It was a rhetorical question. There are no actual current-gen releases running at 4k60 native resolution. They all use dynamic resolution with 1080p-1440p rendering resolution that then upscales to 4k for display.

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      A steam machine with a Radeon 7600 class GPU sold for under $500 would be a surefire hit and it would blow the deck out of the water in terms of performance.

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        I think the biggest thing would be getting a PC with decent specs for $500. Why would anybody buy a Dell desktop or the like ever again? Like even if you don’t game and need to do office work it’d probably be the best option.

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          You can almost build something like that for this price. Or you can do it if you buy some second hand stuff. But for an OEM building a few million units it would definitely be doable.

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            Yeah, but I was thinking more parents buying a console for their kids. Like oh little Jimmy can do his homework on this thing too, great I didn’t have to buy him another computer. Or imagine if Microsoft put windows on Xboxes, every office building would be full of them lol.

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        They already exist. They’re called mini PCs or NUCs. Just buy one of those and you’re already there. Literally. This whole article and thread is garbage. They already exist. They just aren’t branded Steam.

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          For the average person, that is impossible. Also, you lose a lot of features compared to SteamOS. Also, the controls are (at least to me) a main selling point and there is no controller on the market that comes close to the capabilities of the Deck.

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            I recognize thr average person won’t do this, but you can get the same steam deck experience by installing Bazzite.

            Now the controller issue I definitely agree with. They need a second gen Steam Controller pronto!

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        Problem is, any occasional performance issue with Proton on the Deck can be justified with “it’s an underpowered portable”, if it happens on a powerful PC, people aren’t going to be as forgiving.

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      My TV is 4k. The Steam UI alone is still a laggy mess at 4K. Setting the Deck at 1080p makes the whole thing really blurry. While upscaling games from 720p or 1080p to 4k looks better. Until they changed something about the FSR settings and it now cripples the performance at 4k as soon as you turn it on.

      A Steam Machine aiming for Xbox Series S type of performance would be sweet.

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      You could do that, but you could get significantly more performance per dollar by creating a new class of hardware that doesn’t have to be concerned with form factor, efficiency or battery, so it can be larger and more performant, and also does not need to include an OLED display or a controller or a battery…