• RION [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    9 months ago

    that everything bad that happens is the product of some shadowy Illuminati puppetmasters.

    That’s part and parcel of Fallout though, no? There was already rampant speculation on Vault-Tec starting the war and the US govt by the end was basically Vault-Tec and the Enclave in a trench coat.

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      I never really played the games so maybe I’m missing something. But I don’t really understand why capitalists that already own and run everything would decide they need to create a post-apocalyptic wasteland. I mean the main reason we’ve never had nuclear war irl is because no-one benefits. And then the show is so devoid of politics or ideology, but in that case the motives of people who would give over their entire life to, for example, just running a vault underground, becomes hard to imagine.

      • Bay_of_Piggies [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Because they’re trapped in an endless resource war with China that is on the edge of total world annihilation. They’re conspiring to do a controlled burn rather than going to the negotiationing table with China.

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        IRL you had RAND, which did game out beneficial nuclear war. The idea was that only America would survive (as long as we did it first) and it would hurt our enemies more than us. Then the wealthy could maintain a relatively normal lifestyle, like the vault dwellers, while reaping the unharmed natural resources (oil, minerals, metals) of former enemies.

        Of course, like you said, the material forces of the real world kept that from happening. The game world doesn’t have the material limitations we do.