• autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    I think we’re talking about different things here sort of. The blahaj/196 stuff isnt relevant to Hexbear like you said but, I completely agree that we should do what we can to curb harassment. I just dont think a lot of the cases of volcel police culture being cited are actually examples of harassment, and that embarrassing people with the meme over the kind of jokes and such they are making isnt going to help curb harassment or fetishization. Let alone actual moderator intervention (which like admittedly, I do have a specific case of what I feel was huge moderator/reporter overreach that sticks in my craw, but I had this opinion well before that happened, I just have an example now). Its just going to end up with cases like Twink where the person feels embarrassed for expressing queer sexuality and leaving the site. And like yeah, I’ll admit, the fact that Twink left over that was somewhat formative for me. It upset me that our culture repressed him so much that he felt unwelcome as a queer person. Should that outweigh the people harassed off the site? No. But as I keep saying I dont think the volcel police culture actually helps with harassment that much, at least in the situations I see it being used.

    So no, I’m not opposed to reigning in harassment. I disagree with how its been done. If someone directs hornyness publicly at another user, curb that. But Ive seen volcel police used in situations that arent that at all. In situations where its just repressive.

    How many active users per day?

    Extremally small lol. Like 20 people. Just saying I dont have no experience moderating this sort of issue because I had to mediate one mostly by myself. But a small friends server isnt the same as Hexbear, we’re in agreement on that.

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      10 months ago

      The people’s VOLCEL VANGUARD are on the scene! PLEASE RESERVE YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS FOR STRATEGIC ACTS OF MASS REVOLUTIONARY CUMMING!!!

      volcel-vanguard

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      10 months ago

      Understandable! I’m really not justifying whatever is up with the JoJo post and didn’t follow what happened with Twink, I’ve just seen what happens when horny stuff isn’t quashed and it’s very, very bad. I wouldn’t call it puritanical because it’s not that sex or horniness is itself wrong or should have any shame, just that socialist spaces benefit from a detachment from horny posting, sexualizing each other, acting as a dating pool, etc.

      Having a culture against that means you can head off the development of things that push the real boundaries. It’s not that a random bonk necessarily prevented an immediate case of harassment, but that is hard for things to go farther. Folks won’t innocently think, “oh yes this is a good forum for complimenting that person’s ass maybe they’ll send me some pics of I ask” because there is no culture anywhere near that here. Not that I’d be surprised if that still happens, it just wouldn’t happen accidentally.