• RadicalCandour@startrek.website
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    Boeing used to be one of those companies you felt proud to work for. Kind of like IBM back in the day. The work mattered. The employees mattered. Boeing is a classic example of Capitalistic Enshitifcation. The amount of cost cutting and lack of oversight has gotten us to this point. Planes literally flying apart, in 2024, for no other reason than brazen irresponsibility and greed.

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      Probably because only the aircrafts sharing the same configuration are at risk here.

      Only the aircraft without doors but this dummy thing/panel - who choose to leave and land itself - need to be grounded. No need to ground the whole fleet…

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        Cause after 2 737 Max 8s fell out the damn sky in the last half past decade, and even more 737 crashes from planes made this century, including this most recent one that was 10 weeks old, it’s clear Boeing crafts don’t deserve any good faith in the safety of their planes

        In fact, Boeing is by far the most dangerous aircraft manufacturer https://observablehq.com/@shanez/who-is-the-most-dangerous-airplane-manufacturer

        The EU + UK also grounded all 737 MAX 9 planes for inspection before they’re allowed to fly again despite none of them having that same configuration

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/06/alaska-airlines-grounds-boeing-737-max-9-planes-after-mid-air-window-blowout

        Please don’t tell me you having Boeing stock and that’s why you’re so personally invested…

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          No i have the competitor stock… But you know, talking about serious topic require basic understanding of facts and solutions.

          All the MAX have being globally grounded because they were sharing the same configuration: the same motor, so the mcas to compensate. Today the problem is totally different…

          Your article regarding boeing is total bullshit because it didn’t take into account the number of aircrafts delivered (and flying) by Boeing before 2000 (quite a significant amount due to the age of boeing company… especially when the article talk about crash of any aircrafts flying…). A ratio with the amount of flying aircraft per manufacturer would have made the analysis fair… and relevant.

          If there is something we know for sure in aeronautics - it’s that incidens / accidents never don’t happen alone… with only one factor or error. It’s always a sum of multiple layers that align and create an unrecoverable situation.

          Note that I agree about the fact that recently Boeing have problem (low skills on FAL, shortcut to save money like the mcas, etc…). But you need to stay rationnal too and understand the topic you are commenting on before “arguing” with me.

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            “The European Union aviation safety regulator adopted the FAA’s MAX 9 directive but noted no EU member state airlines “currently operate an aircraft in the affected configuration.” A British air safety regulator said it would require any 737 MAX 9 operator to comply with the FAA directive to enter its airspace.”

            EU + UK have no MAX 9 with the affected configuration but still forcing every plane to be double checked

            And average age of an airplane before they retire is low 20s years old. There’s not gonna be many planes in service built before 2000. They even early retired a bunch of older planes between 2010 and 2014 to more fuel efficient ones

            https://www.statista.com/statistics/622600/average-age-of-jets-when-removed-from-service-by-type/