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    Imagine the police calling you and telling you to turn yourself in, and then bombing your family if you don’t.

    Seems like the police are the bad guys in that scenario.

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      7 months ago

      IDF are the military. It’s more like “imagine the FSB calling you and telling you to turn yourself in, mocking them publicly, then getting surprised at finding Polonium in the soup”.

      They’re not there to be the nice guys.

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        The IDF are terrorists who target civilians with vague claims, that they do not allow anyone to review, that their bombs are totally definitely absolutely hitting Hamas and not just civilians.

        But also, police are just the internal enforcers of a government’s power. And Israel exerts de facto control over the West Bank and Gaza, so it’s perfectly accurate to call the IDF’s actions there ‘policing’.

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          terrorists who target civilians with vague claims

          That’s what I said; when they get hired by an internationally feared recognized country, you call it “the military”.

          Otherwise, Israel has officially left Gaza in 2005, mostly use the IDF in non-settled areas of the West Bank, with the Israeli Police elsewhere… and no, doing like the US Police does, is not a good example of “policing”.

          Don’t lower the bar. Police are the people in charge of solving neighborly disputes as peacefully as possible, anything else is a lie.

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            No, police are the enforcers of state power. States are bad. Police are bad.

            Community defense groups are not “police”, and “solving neighborly disputes” does not require authority figures to get involved outside of adjudication, which police and/or community defense groups cannot and do not do; that’s what courts are for.