Hilariously it looks like ziq (who runs raddle), and emma (who develops it) are the main ones in that thread arguing for keeping terms like blacklist and master branch.
I don’t see why anyone would bother dying on this hill. It’s just so easy to swap words. “Oh some people find this a problem? Fair enough, we will use this instead.” simple and done.
There are many things that we all go back and forth on here but this one is just so fucking easy.
Ziq’s main objection seems to be that banning microaggressions is a slippery slope that results in wrecking campaigns which nearly destroy the site. Sounds less like a policy problem and more like a moderation problem.
I mean, yes wrecker shit is a problem. But you have to balance doing something objectively right (not using blacklist/whitelist) against the bad wrecker campaigns. Community needs to be inoculated properly to deal with them and if it’s not that’s simply poor community management to begin with.
If I wanted to be a wrecker I’d have an easier time doing it against a site admin team that refuses to do obviously good shit compared to being forced to find more and more esoteric things to complain about.
This is ridiculous, github liberals are literally more progressive than the so-called leftist.
Even corporate tech places are phasing out the black/white master/slave language so its not like this is some obscure wrecker ask. When they’re less socially progressive about this than say, Facebook, then it might be time to reconsider
Yeah, I don’t think it’s a ridiculous ask at all. I don’t think that it should be that hard of a thing to pull off and handle and I agree with what Awoo said below
“allow list” and “block list” are so easy to understand
Hilariously it looks like ziq (who runs raddle), and emma (who develops it) are the main ones in that thread arguing for keeping terms like blacklist and master branch.
I don’t see why anyone would bother dying on this hill. It’s just so easy to swap words. “Oh some people find this a problem? Fair enough, we will use this instead.” simple and done.
There are many things that we all go back and forth on here but this one is just so fucking easy.
Ziq’s main objection seems to be that banning microaggressions is a slippery slope that results in wrecking campaigns which nearly destroy the site. Sounds less like a policy problem and more like a moderation problem.
I mean, yes wrecker shit is a problem. But you have to balance doing something objectively right (not using blacklist/whitelist) against the bad wrecker campaigns. Community needs to be inoculated properly to deal with them and if it’s not that’s simply poor community management to begin with.
If I wanted to be a wrecker I’d have an easier time doing it against a site admin team that refuses to do obviously good shit compared to being forced to find more and more esoteric things to complain about.
This is ridiculous, github liberals are literally more progressive than the so-called leftist.
Even corporate tech places are phasing out the black/white master/slave language so its not like this is some obscure wrecker ask. When they’re less socially progressive about this than say, Facebook, then it might be time to reconsider
Yeah, I don’t think it’s a ridiculous ask at all. I don’t think that it should be that hard of a thing to pull off and handle and I agree with what Awoo said below