• lugal@sopuli.xyz
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    “I’m against the US imperialism.”

    “So you are against imperialism?”

    “No, it’s just another kind of imperialism.”

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      No no, They are against imperialism. Your example isn’t valid because that’s not imperialism, that’s just spreading the socialist revolution, which requires military “support” because it is the only way to remove the imperialist and decolonise a nation.

      No no, stationing the socialist revolutionary guard in said country isn’t imperialism because it’s under the flag of socialism, don’t you see the difference?

      Brought to you by the cognitive dissonance of Marxist.

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        True, it’s not their fault that they inherited an empire. Liberating Siberia would be nonsensical after the revolution which was a liberation. An independent Siberia (or several independent Siberian states) would be less free since all states are evil so why not keep the worst one.

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    Also neo colonialism. I’m from El Salvador, the u.s and Russia used us like proxies, destroyed our country, turned our people against each other. And once the dust settled and the country was a wreck, the u.s sent in their corporations to rebuild it, so now they own it. They’ll never admit it, but it’s a neo colony now, which uses American currency and does everything America wants

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      I hope that your country is able to decolonialize as soon as possible. The super exploitation in the global periphery needs to stop.

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            Uh huh.

            And if, as a random example, Britain and France took their thumbs out of their asses and declared war over the demilitarization of the Rhineland?

            Or the illegitimate annexation of Austria.

            Or just told Hitler they would declare war over the Sudentenland

            Or the liberal nations actually defended democracy and intervened against the fascists in Spain.

            Or or or

            Imperialism is a nation deliberately exerting influence on others, and it can be justified.

            Like most everything, it just depends on circumstances.

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              Or the liberal nations actually defended democracy and intervened against the fascists in Spain

              They did intervene in Spain… to help the fascists. The US pressured Mexico to stop sending arms to Spanish anarchists, and Britain pressured France to stop sending arms to Spanish anarchists. Just liberals living up to their ideology, of course.

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              Don’t bother to try and debate the nuance of the geopolitical landscape with a bunch of neo-marxists who have gorged themselves on the “west is bad” coolaid.

              It’s as pointless as arguing with neo-capitalists as to why regulation is both not the glove of communism, but also required for the healthy workings of a free market.

              They are both extremists who only subscribe to a narrow binary view of the world, which fits their respective “ism”.

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                Oh, look… a free-market cultist is pretending that capitalism isn’t one of the most extreme ideologies ever invented.

                Yawn.

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        But haven’t you heard? Only European countries and the US can be imperialist.

        The Marxist ideology brain worm in play.

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    Country A invades Country B to “liberate” Group A. Imperialism.

    Country C invades Country D to “liberate” Group B. Revolution.

    Brought to you by the mindset of your average Marxist.

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      Isn’t a revolution something that isn’t brought by an outer invading force, but by the people of a country?

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        Literally Communist countries talk about the exporting revolution.

        Your argument is the exact semantic nonsense I was highlighting.

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          I was just asking a question, I wasn’t making an argument lol. Chill out your cojones mate.

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      A revolution would be Country D invading its own ruling class, no? You’re just describing imperialism twice.