One of many. And we do it for free, too.

No, I’m not. And yet people still invite me to theirs.

fighting fascism with fascism

Good God but you are dense. Have you ever seen liberals oppose fascism in any way whatsoever? Why would they oppose the very thing that allows the liberal order to exist in the first place?

how the fuck do you expect liberals to protect the status quo against violence?

With fascists. That’s how, Clyde.

That seems counter intuitive, this is literally an impossible proposal here.

Don’t tell me it’s impossible. Tell it to the liberals who applauded Biden when he added more armed fascist goons to the streets when people were demanding he defund and/or abolish them.

Doesn’t seem that impossible to them, does it?

I needed an ELI5 really.

Liberals essentially cover for both capitalists and fascists. See, capitalist and fascist ideology are very unpopular on their own, so liberals come up with all kinds of ways to pretend that rich people owning everything is good for everyone (capitalism) or pretending that more police repression means more safety (fascism).

Liberalsm essentially acts as the pretend-friendly “facade” ideology of this unholy trio - so yes, it’s simply coherent for leftists to despise liberalism.

The very last line is redundant. If you don’t know by now what the critical role fascism plays in the liberal order is, I don’t know what to tell you.

wait, why are we holding liberals responsible?

You mean, apart from the fact that liberals cannot protect the status quo without violent fascists and therefore protects and enables fascism?

Apart from that?

If you call yourself a “conservative” you’re either a fascist or a liberal that just isn’t quite there yet.

Make sure to use a blunt instrument - you don’t want to be touching that toxic thing with your bare hands.

Remember - they didn’t throw Martin Skhreli into rich-guy’s prison because he caused thousands of people to die by raising the prices on lifesaving medicines out of reach of poor folk… no, no, no, they threw him into rich guy’s prison because he embezzled some of his fellow rich parasites’ money.

The way it looks is the way it is.

Slap-on-the-wrist fines doesn’t keep workers safe - organized labor keeps workers safe.

as it is unrealistic to have a referendum for every single decision

Oh, there was no decision here… Germany has been supporting Israel’s ongoing genocide for a very, very long time now. Enabling Israel’s white supremacist genocide is no less a matter of policy in Germany than it is in the US - and none of you will ever get to vote on it, just like USians don’t get to vote on it in any way, shape or form.

Let us be very clear… knowingly enabling genocide is no different than perpetrating genocide oneself - and Germany endorsing Israel in their genocidal project makes it blatantly clear that Germany is as fundamentally white supremacist and imperialist today as Germany was when it perpetrated it’s first genocide in Namibia. It doesn’t matter that the people signing the papers are wearing overpriced designer-label suits instead of grey uniforms, and it doesn’t matter that the politicians are flashing liberal pretend-smiles for the cameras instead of throwing fascist tantrums from a podium. It’s all the exact same white supremacism still at work.

There have been multiple demonstrations against Israel’s actions

Yeah… I saw. And the fascist goon squads were there, too - to perform their true function and ensure that actual democracy doesn’t threaten the precious status quo while it’s hard at work enabling genocide.

lot of people who think that Palestine should be blown up.

Isn’t it an amazing coincidence that the biggest parties in every (so-called) “liberal democracy” are almost always regurgitating the exact same narratives that rich people themselves want regurgitated?

It’s almost like… actual democracy isn’t compatible with a society where a small, rich elite gets to dictate what everybody believes, eh?

Also one question, are you actually from Germany

No. I’m from South Africa… if you must know.

But what does this have to do with democracy?

I hate to be the one to break it to you - “liberal democracy” is about as “democratic” as the Soviet Union was “socialist.” Liberalism, capitalism and imperialism is violently incompatible with any society that can be described as democratic with a straight face - and always has been.

If the elected parties fund a war, morally correct or not, it is still democracy as they were chosen.

Did Germans collectively agree to this genocide that is being funded in their name? Do they even really know what is being done in their name?

No?

Then there’s absolutely nothing democratic about it, is it?

You mean… apart from the fact that Germany is funding, supporting and enabling Israel’s genocide?

Does that chart include all the violence perpetrated by the police on a daily basis? If it doesn’t it is utterly incomplete, as all police violence is right-wing violence.

You did know there’s a western-backed genocide being perpetrated in Palestine right now, right?

Liberal is the opposite of authoritarian.

Riiiight… until you threaten their precious private property, capitalism, and/or imperialism. Then you quickly see liberals singing the same song fascists do.

Scratch a fascist and a liberal bleeds.

People are afraid of a uncertain future?

Who made the future uncertain?

Perhaps the very same people funding fascists, maybe?

…and we’ve never hanged any of the capitalists funding them.