• UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    The JJ Abrams gambit, refined: you don’t have to provide disappointing endings to hype waves if you never write the ending think-about-it

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      Does anyone at this point think the ending will be significantly different from the show? Martin put pretty blatant nods to what the big reveals will be in the books, the foreshadowing points to Dani going full tyrant with her WMDragons. It’s pretty clear the show runners either had an outline from George or just read the fucking books and correctly predicted what he was gonna do.

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        Yes the ending will be significantly different.

        For one, Euron Greyjoy is the big bad and is foreshadowed to release some sort of eldritch dark god entity into the world while binding one of Dany’s dragons, or summoning another moon meteor that brings another long night. He is also the prophesied Azor Ahai and Azor Ahai is bad and created the long night and white walkers by invading/warging into the weirwood hivemind and displacing the tree spirits. This is all foreshadowed by the story of the Bloodstone Emperor.

        Dany won’t go full WMDs, instead she will have to kill and overthrow fake Aegon (young griff) who will be beloved by the people for ousting the evil queen Cersei who destroyed the sept of Baelor. So Dany will be seen as a tyrant but she’s not going to just massacre people. Tyrion is the devil in her ear though and she’s possibly allying with Victorian Greyjoy so she might become evil by who she associates with. It was always shown her invasion of Westeros would be terrible and involve mass suffering, with the Dothraki and Dragons that was obvious. Whatever happens with Euron, Dany will be directly involved.

        Bran is going to have to resolve the issue of the white walkers by putting them back into the weirwood trees and driving the 3 eye raven and all other humans out of the weirwood tree hivemind to make space and right the wrongs of Azor Ahai.

        Jon may be resurrected a lot more wolf like, his personality merging with Ghost while he was dead. This was ignored in the show. Also, it’s foreshadowed Jon might be the night’s king that the others are searching for, and they will resurrect him (not Melisandre) as a sentient ice wight like coldhands to lead them back to their homeland. Jon might become the leader of the white walkers and lead them to exile/peace.

        I can go on if you like, we haven’t even gotten into the deep ones / merlings and their impact on the plot. They will be involved with the Euron plotline most likely, they currently have Aeron Greyjoy (damp hair), Davos and Patchface under their influence (anyone who drowns and comes back significantly different). They are the architects of the oily black stone cities of asshai and moat Cailin. They farm humans and breed them livestock, as seen on the thousand isles and the iron isles.

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        I wouldn’t be surprised if the author saw the negative reaction, realized he was going to do roughly the same thing, and decided to just get circling the runway and churning out endless edgy side projects instead of coming up with something else.

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          See my comment above, the ending of the books will be significantly different due to the cutting of Euron Greyjoy, Victorian Greyjoy, Young Griff and other pivotal characters that will affect the world in world historical ways. They completely removed the foreshadowed plot of Euron Greyjoy summoning a meteor into the earth and causing another long night, possibly becoming the vessel for an old god or demon of some kind. They also completely botched the white walker plotline explaining their creation and eventual destruction, which requires Brann to realize his ancestors were evil and right the wrongs of history by letting the white walkers back into their home in the weirwood trees and relinquishing human control of the weirwood hivemind network.

          Azor Ahai / the prince that was promised is Euron Greyjoy who brought about the original long night and will be bringing the upcoming one as well. Azor Ahai is evil.

          The Night’s King, who is a fabled evil king of legends, is Jon Snow. Jon will be resurrected as Night’s King and lead the White Walkers back into their homeland of the weirwood network (they are tree spirits driven out of the weirwoods and given physical form via blood sacrifice, mostly babies).

          So the twist will be the prophecy is true but the opposite of how we have been interpreting it. Azor Ahai is actually the bad guy and Night’s King will end the long night and lead the others to peaceful justice and to return to their home)