Most nodes have no constitution

In an effort to find places to create communities, I browse lemmyverse.net. There are hundreds of instances. Unfortunately descriptions of instances are either empty or general purpose.

This is a terrible organization. No constitution. It’s like these neighborhoods where all the shops try to sell a bit of everything. E.g. like when a tiny shop sells spices, phones, cheese, hammers, rugs, and speakers. Nothing goes together. We say shops like that lack a constitution which defines the focus of their business. When there’s a whole street of shops like this, you don’t know which shop to enter for what you need. You have to try many different shops arbitrarily until you find what you need. The #threadiverse is like that. Not many venues focused on a defined purpose.

Have I missed something? Is there a service or document that only lists specific-purpose #Lemmy and #Kbin nodes?

Centralization in wolf’s clothes

The other problem with the Lemmyverse site is there is no “cancel Cloudflare” switch that supports filtering out all instances that are centralized on Cloudflare. I always have to open the filters and manually remove:

  • lemmy·world
  • lemm·ee
  • sh·itjust·works
  • lemmy·ca
  • lemmy·ml (← no longer CF but I still filter it out for other reasons)

The threadiverse exists inherently for the purpose of decentralization. So it’d be sensible for resources for finding nodes to make it trivial to just list decentralized instances.

Centralization - lack of constitution relationship

The lack of constitution effectively exacerbates the centralization problem. That is, when everything is general purpose, this encourages everyone to choose the biggest general purpose venue – Lemmy·World, the Wal·Mart of the #Lemmyverse.

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    I’m not sure what you mean by constitution. Are you talking about a mission statement or statement of values?

    These are some dictionary defs:

    • a set of basic laws or principles for a country that describe the rights and duties of its citizens and the way in which it is governed
    • a set of basic rules and principles for an organization that control how it operates
    • your general physical condition, health, and strength
    • the form or structure of something, or the way in which it is organized

    In business when a company is created (constituted) by someone, they create a company constitution which declares how the business will operate and what its trade is. If you’re in the plumbing business, you would say your company is for profit and you would list the activities of plumbing and maybe selling plumbing supplies. Your company is then legally bound by that constitution. You would (e.g.) be allowed to buy sulfuric acid because plumbers have a legit use for that. But you could not use that company to go into the PC repair business, at least not without changing the company constitution. And if you update the company constitution to be a PC repair business, you would no longer be able to buy sulfuric acid. These concepts may be state-specific. When a small shop is selling a bizarre unrelated mix of things, it likely means something is dodgy with their constitution… what business did they say they were in? The corporate constitution mechanism is somewhat supposed to mitigate shops selling sex toys, car parts, and pizzas all in the same place. It’s not always well enforced in my area.

    Most people are aware of gov constitutions so I won’t go into that… it essentially encapsulates an abstraction of the highest values of the land and gives direction and purpose.

    There is also personal constitution. That is, if a person has a strong moral constitution they not only have values but they adhere to them. Vegans would be an example of those with a strong constitution (to the extent they strictly practice the vegan lifestyle).

    I’m using the term loosely in the threadiverse sense. Perhaps along the lines of the 4th bullet. I intend for a node with a constitution to mean that the node owner has declared a purpose. It could be topic-focused, or region focused, or culture focused, or a way of thinking, a theme, etc… some kind of comprehensible direction. But what we see are mostly nodes listed in the lemmyverse.net catalog with no specific purpose or structure… just “general purpose” yet small at the same time.