• Dr. JenkemA
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    The article opens with “what about America’s response to 9/11?”. JFC, what a shitty justification. America was clearly wrong to war crime all over Iraq just as Israel is in the wrong for warcriming all over Palestine. I refuse to “both sides” imperialists and their victims. Frankly, “both sides” is the trap one should avoid.

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        Iraq was also a consequence of 9/11. It would never have happened without it.

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          Arguable, Iraq was Bush Jr. finishing what his father started in the late 80s. It may well have happened even without 9/11. Afghanistan however was a direct consequence of 9/11, and is a more apt metaphor for what Israel is doing now.

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            I think Bush would want to do it, but would never have been able to get the go along without the war fever.

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        Yes, first was Afghanistan. But the Iraq invasion was still under the “war on terror”. Besides, I was simply referring to the author’s argument:

        But he added that we had to consider what the US did when attacked on 9/11: it invaded Iraq, with 200,000 [his figures] killed in three years.

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          Iraq may well have been invaded even without 9/11, as it was Bush Jr. finishing what his father started in the late 80s.

          The direct consequence of 9/11 was Afghanistan, and thus is a more apt metaphor for what is happening with Israel right now.

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            There’s no point raising a metaphor in the first place. A metaphor doesn’t justify anything. It’s just a rhetorical tool that is supposed to help deliver a point. However, all it does in this instance is mess and draw confusion.