If China continues to insist on abandoning proletarian internationalism and trying to be a friend to literally everyone, then they’re going to find that they don’t have any real allies when the US comes knocking at their door for WWIII.
If China continues to insist on abandoning proletarian internationalism and trying to be a friend to literally everyone
China doesn’t want to be friends with everyone, they want to be able to do business with everyone. they do a shit ton of business with , they’re one of China’s biggest trade partners in Asia, especially the tech/surveillance sector.
Chinese foreign policy has always been dog shit and they don’t care about anything outside of their borders, so I guess no one should have expected much more from them. :china-cool:
It’s an open secret too that Israel is a conduit for Western technology, especially sensitive technologies, to get to China. It wasn’t too long ago (like mid 2000s) that Israel was just openly selling the weapons it gets from the US and Europe to China.
Why does this arrangement exist? I never understood this. Why not just not have a middleman?
Tangentially, it is really disgusting how Israel has become a bleeding edge innovation hub for all the worst kinds of military and cyberwarfare stuff. I guess having Israel be the salesperson for this kind of shit gives US plausible deniability. I hate Israel. Literally destruction and misanthrophy sublimated into the form of an ethnostate.
They can’t sell weapons to China while pretending to think China is preparing for war against them and falsely accusing them of genocide.
They also can’t stop supplying weapons to Israel while it’s an important colonial outpost and they insist it’s a shining democracy that must be protected.
Israel knows this and gets to play both sides a bit, which China uses to get access to western weapons. It’s cynical geopolitics.
China’s foreign policy is entirely centered around their sphere of influence. Their neighbours in Southeast Asia are far more their concern than what happens in the Middle East. They lack the influence and the resources to do anything significant in the Middle East and they know it.
China isn’t the Soviet Union. It doesn’t have the military muscle to project power beyond the countries that border it. This is the difference between the two. The Soviet Union was a superpower because of its military while China is a superpower because of its economy. China can’t do anything immediate to stop Israel’s genocide. Military-wise, they not only lack the raw power but also have to reserve most of their military in case they have to forcefully seek reunification with Taiwan. Even something extremely drastic like a complete sanction and severing of relations between China and Israel won’t materially stop the genocide for the simple reason that the rabid dog Netanyahu and the rest of the Zionists will not be stopped by anything except for brutal force, something that China lacks.
They lack the influence and the resources to do anything significant in the Middle East and they know it.
They got the Saudis and Iranians to mend their fence, which is pretty huge. Reading between the lines, China probably offered guarantees to both Saudi and Iran off the table so it’s not impossible that China is choosing to act through them as proxies.
Still, a weak statement from the Foreign Ministry. Wonder if they’ll toughen their stance if Israel continues to commit attrocities and the Arab and Muslim world asks China to choose sides.
this is kinda idealistic, china doesnt actually have a way to push their forces into here. almost all of china’s military-based international efforts are via the UN. they largely keep to themselves, not only because of geography but because they are still neocolonized in areas like taiwan. if they lose their position, people have physical state entities to swap allegiance to. the statement could be better, but they still dont want to throw their emerging position away.
if you saw this sort of shit happening in SE Asia or Korea they would be involved from the outset. russia has more capability of doing things here even though theyre in a war. plus we also must remember that the soviet union tried military and arms intervention in this conflict before, but this was obviously unsuccessful despite their better geopolitical and geographic positioning.
Looks like we got some #ThoughtsAndPrayers.
If China continues to insist on abandoning proletarian internationalism and trying to be a friend to literally everyone, then they’re going to find that they don’t have any real allies when the US comes knocking at their door for WWIII.
China doesn’t want to be friends with everyone, they want to be able to do business with everyone. they do a shit ton of business with
, they’re one of China’s biggest trade partners in Asia, especially the tech/surveillance sector.
Chinese foreign policy has always been dog shit and they don’t care about anything outside of their borders, so I guess no one should have expected much more from them. :china-cool:
It’s an open secret too that Israel is a conduit for Western technology, especially sensitive technologies, to get to China. It wasn’t too long ago (like mid 2000s) that Israel was just openly selling the weapons it gets from the US and Europe to China.
Why does this arrangement exist? I never understood this. Why not just not have a middleman?
Tangentially, it is really disgusting how Israel has become a bleeding edge innovation hub for all the worst kinds of military and cyberwarfare stuff. I guess having Israel be the salesperson for this kind of shit gives US plausible deniability. I hate Israel. Literally destruction and misanthrophy sublimated into the form of an ethnostate.
They can’t sell weapons to China while pretending to think China is preparing for war against them and falsely accusing them of genocide.
They also can’t stop supplying weapons to Israel while it’s an important colonial outpost and they insist it’s a shining democracy that must be protected.
Israel knows this and gets to play both sides a bit, which China uses to get access to western weapons. It’s cynical geopolitics.
China’s foreign policy is entirely centered around their sphere of influence. Their neighbours in Southeast Asia are far more their concern than what happens in the Middle East. They lack the influence and the resources to do anything significant in the Middle East and they know it.
China isn’t the Soviet Union. It doesn’t have the military muscle to project power beyond the countries that border it. This is the difference between the two. The Soviet Union was a superpower because of its military while China is a superpower because of its economy. China can’t do anything immediate to stop Israel’s genocide. Military-wise, they not only lack the raw power but also have to reserve most of their military in case they have to forcefully seek reunification with Taiwan. Even something extremely drastic like a complete sanction and severing of relations between China and Israel won’t materially stop the genocide for the simple reason that the rabid dog Netanyahu and the rest of the Zionists will not be stopped by anything except for brutal force, something that China lacks.
They got the Saudis and Iranians to mend their fence, which is pretty huge. Reading between the lines, China probably offered guarantees to both Saudi and Iran off the table so it’s not impossible that China is choosing to act through them as proxies.
Still, a weak statement from the Foreign Ministry. Wonder if they’ll toughen their stance if Israel continues to commit attrocities and the Arab and Muslim world asks China to choose sides.
Feel like shit, just want him back
He pushed for Israel to be established and supported early Israel very directly
this is kinda idealistic, china doesnt actually have a way to push their forces into here. almost all of china’s military-based international efforts are via the UN. they largely keep to themselves, not only because of geography but because they are still neocolonized in areas like taiwan. if they lose their position, people have physical state entities to swap allegiance to. the statement could be better, but they still dont want to throw their emerging position away.
if you saw this sort of shit happening in SE Asia or Korea they would be involved from the outset. russia has more capability of doing things here even though theyre in a war. plus we also must remember that the soviet union tried military and arms intervention in this conflict before, but this was obviously unsuccessful despite their better geopolitical and geographic positioning.