• boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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    Actual libs get a pass, they’re anticapitalists like us. Any capitalist claiming to be a lib or someone claiming a capitalist a lib is just messed up from the life-long programming

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      That’s not what liberal means.

      There is no such thing as an anti-capitalist liberal. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism. Liberals created the capitalist world order. That’s not life long programming, thats several hundred years of political theory and basic definitions.

      If you want to pretend that liberal means something else great, just don’t claim that everyone else in the world using the word correctly is wrong.

      • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        I mean I think Richard Rorty makes a compelling case that anti-capitalism actually carries the purported goals of liberalism further than so called “liberal” economics and so he was happy to identify self-consistently as an anti-capitalist liberal.

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      With respect, liberalism is the ideology of free markets and private property. It is the ideology of capitalism. To be a “lib” is to be a capitalist.

      If you still call yourself a lib and not a socialist, you should stop. It is political illiteracy.