The FBI has their best guys working on “tracking down” the legislators who are in, I am checking my notes, the same hotel they’ve been in in
MichiganIllinois since they flew out of Texas.Yeah but they forgot to tell you they realized last minute how much they would miss Texas and went to Dallas, Georgia
credit to some democrats doing something actually obstructive to reactionaries at personal risk
This is a Texas tradition that happens every few years, the GOP does it too. Just politics as usual in Texas.
Is it normal to send the FBI after them?
No, the FBI has no authority to arrest them as they have not committed a federal crime. No law against making statements about hunting them down to sound tough though.
Okay, but I think this establishes this as something different and not “politics as usual”
I don’t know for sure, but I don’t think they have ever even tried to involve the FBI before.
What I’m saying is I don’t think it’s reasonable to jump just because Trump’s FBI run by Kash Patel made a statement. It will be different if they actually do something. Kash spent a lot of time saying he was going to release everything about Epstein and it’s pretty plain that was nothing more than talk. These are bullshitters.
Releasing everything about Epstein would implicate Trump and hurt his popularity among his base, so they won’t do that.
Sending the FBI to arrest Democrats would cost Trump nothing and actually make him far more popular among his base.
This is worth watching.
Yeah, I’m not saying it’s not worth watching. I’m saying Trump admin statements about what they’re going to do have similar value to a fart. IF more than statements happen, then it’s notable and different. Currently it’s just bluster. Trump hasn’t purged the FBI and replaced them with loyalists yet, and they’re not quite as dumb as ICE is.
I’m surprised that Abbott hasn’t done a purely political stunt and said something like “I sent some of our finest Texas Rangers to Chicago to uphold Texas law.” Chuds love that GOP “my way or the highway” owning the libs bullshit even if it’s grandstanding nonsense.
give him a minute to cook things go in slow motion down south. god i want texas rangers publicly humiliated
publicly humiliated
I want to be optimistic and Pritzker talks very tough about Trump and the GOP. But I’m pretty sure that if Abbott actually did that - Pritzker would fold like a cheap suit. Instead of arresting them for breaking Illinois law - Pritzker would do the 100% typical dem thing. He’d file a lawsuit that Americans would yawn about, ignore, and then forget.
I’m sure in private Pritzker non-stop talks to his aides and consultants about how he can win over “reasonable” republican voters in his hoped-for 2028 presidential bid.
arresting texas rangers in illinois would be such an easy slam-dunk for dems, so you know for sure they’d never risk it
You could nail them with plenty of shit that would keep them locked up in the pokey for a long time, like impersonating an illinois police officer, conspiracy, kidnapping, attempted human trafficking, etc etc
The dems are a real trip. Trump and the GOP gleefully and massively damaged healthcare, medical research, scientific research, etc. They stole the from poor to create a gigantic money funnel to the rich. They created the best funded Gestapo in the history of the world. Trump is vile, incompetent, corrupt and a criminal who has already grifted many billions from Trump 2.0.
Despite all of that - the dems are historically unpopular. And their plan is - of course - 100% risk averse.
We’re headed for the rocks but if we can get some independents onboard - maybe at the last minute we can turn this thing around we all won’t die!
Do something radic— Oh. That’s always a bridge too far. But at least do something now and be bold. Can you at least do that?
No. But we doing polling and focus groups to determ—
Oh, fuck off.
They learned their lesson in 2008. Even though Obama was 100% in the tank for the bourgeoisie and the DNC, they will never ever again allow a fair presidential primary. Bernie would have been the best thing for the democrats in the short and long term, particularly because he would roll over on most everything and be satisfied with playing around in the margins to improve things slightly without really rocking the boat. The DNC is dead set on never again allowing any outsider candidate with progressive posturing anywhere near the controls.
any outsider candidate with progressive posturing anywhere near the controls.
What are you doing! You’re sending us away from the rocks in a risky manner. We can’t allow that!
I should write a strongly worded letter encouraging him to send these Texas Rangers to Chicago
sparking fears of a potential standoff between law enforcement
unfounded. the police are on the side of authority, fascist or not.
there are competing authorities.
can the democrats really be said to be competing with the GOP?
even chuds in other states don’t like texas so yeah i think this could be something of a competition if it went beyond theater
I really think we might be starting to see that: launching DOJ investigations against Obama, Texas trying to arrest Democrats, California doing its own redistricting, etc etc. This looks like a serious split in the bipartisan consensus.
Texas tries to arrest democrats every time they flee quorum, that isn’t really new. If the FBI actually does something, that would be new.
Did that happen in 2003? I don’t remember and I can’t find anything.
Search engines are really shitty these days, particularly when trying to find anything about arrests related to texas government. I think they did it in '01, '15, and back in the 1940s as well.
I’m seeing arrest warrants when I use a custom date range, but FBI involvement seems new.
one is higher than the other and the authorities of the lower one will yield the higher out of fealty to authority.
this is between the states, feds stepping in on one side is just strong-arming the one state over the other, this is different from the feds using their authority independently.
true
nevertheless, the feds have a perceived supreme authority over the state, so the members of whatever police force that the state might try to employ to defend its sovereignty will bow to the feds.
maybe. but a lot of folks hate texas
it doesn’t matter if they hate texas; it only matter that they obey whatever they believe that the law is.
in this case it is an attempt to make texan law supercede their local laws.
sounds bad
