They’ll literally talk about feeding millions of people alligators or put on theatrically staged shows of tying people up to chairs with bags on their heads and executing them via gunshot to the back of the head among other monstrous acts but will cry crocodile tears enough to flood the Great Plains with an ocean and accuse you of being a monster in human skin if you don’t want basic human rights for everyone.
It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed person, who goes about hungry, and cannot find employment.
Real liberty can exist only where exploitation has been abolished, where there is no oppression of some by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a man is not haunted by the fear of being tomorrow deprived of work, of home and of bread. Only in such a society is real, and not paper, personal and every other liberty possible
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A maximum sentence in the worst Soviet prison in the Stalin era is a kindness to these people.
Here’s my trade offer;
You can A) Read through all the first-hand primary source info on the Soviet penal system in this post and come back with a nuanced response and even make an intrllectual critique of it if you see fit.
Or B) make a
shitlib snarky one-liner and be banned from the instance.
I seriously doubt that someone who’s immediate response was to attack and dismiss my post, calling me a “shitlib”, which I’m sure means something to you, is interested in a “nuanced” discussion of any kind.
And if your so called primary source is an American journalist who was allowed to visit some prisons, then I would ask you if you really believe they would allow her to tour the majority of facilities?
I am suspect of propaganda in all its forms. And I’m in no way defending the fascist shithole that the US has become. I am simply pointing out that the US being shit is not a defense of Siberian labor camps, as your post implies.
But not suspect of all the western propaganda about Soviet gulags, apparently.
lol, lmao
Yes because the rest of her, and Callcott’s books both discuss their first-hand investigation of Soviet prisons across the union.
We live in a country that constantly spins outright lies about so-called enemies to justify the crimes against humanity it commits against everyone within and without its boarders.
I am not implying that I am defending the Soviet penal system. I am speaking the truth.
Alright you pass since you put in the effort
Gives a non nuanced, downright moronic, oneliner and then is surprised by the response they get… Many such cases!
It’s over folks. Pack up, she wasn’t given access to the hiper-gulag hidden in Tselinoyarsk and all the real victims were given wedgies and shoved into lockers so she couldn’t interview them…
who would the soviets be putting in prison?
do you think the united states propaganda machine that is responsible for your background vibes based opinion of the gulag system is more or less reliable than literally any other source?
Actually educating yourself about the things you seemingly strongly believe in is a good thing to do, even if you don’t think someone on hexbear.net is going to be cordial to you (and it’s not exactly like you started out the conversation in a way that screams “good faith argument”).
More importantly, if you just assume everything that contradicts what you already believe in is propaganda and not worth looking at you’re really just making sure you’ll never escape any propaganda or incorrect assumption you’ve fallen for in the past.
Hey dis u?
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/19936948
damn it’s so lucky for you that western media is objective and doesn’t have any sort of agenda so you can accept it uncritically
Holy shit, an actual unironic pontemkin village claim in the wild. I am in awe of your great intellect mighty sir, have a reddit gold:
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