Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood said so-called chemical castration would be used in 20 prisons in two regions and that she was considering making it mandatory.

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    Alright here’s a fucked up take.

    At least a few people that are asexual get created by the nonce drugs.

    They don’t even have to ID as ace, the right could just define everyone in that 60% as asexual and play on people having no idea what asexuality really is.

    The right then uses that designation of people as asexual to propagandise that LGBT people are nonces and support MAP.

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    soooooooo this is going to be used on trans women isn’t it.

    ALSO! castration doesn’t fucking work because sexual violence has nothing to do with desire!

    ukkk

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      No it isn’t.

      They’re going to fuck with trans people, but the drugs used are also drugs used by trans people in some instances as part of hormone treatment or as puberty blockers. They’re going to deny trans people something they are pressuring cis people to take. (There are other drugs involved in transitioning, but they’re also going to deny trans people those while giving them to cis people)

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    This appears to be a british program that cites the Danish program in herstedvester, which uses Androcur and Procren (Zoladex), but other Grnh modulators are also in talk probably.

    Which essentially means the only way to get HRT expedited in terfland is to be a pedophile, and it’s probably gonna be the only way to get puberty blockers period.

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    alleviate the pressures on the prison system, which is running out of space.

    Ya know, one way to help alleviate the issue with having too many prisoners, is to reevaluate whether so many crimes should send people there.

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      The prison population in England and Wales has doubled over the past 30 years or so to nearly 90,000. That’s despite a fall in crime rates and is driven in part by the fact that longer sentences are being handed out amid pressure to be tough on crime.

      brow

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        here ye here ye, we bring to account, this assembly, wherein we demand of ourselves stricter corrections on outlawed behaviors, and must submit to these pressures which we put upon ourselves

        *raucous stomping and chattering among the wigged crackers*

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          I did not suggest it will. I posted a depressing figure that demonstrates the problem is policing and sentencing. There would currently be half the number of people in prison if we simply had the same sentencing and policing culture that existed 30 years ago. This shows how much the cultural attitude has slipped rightwards in the UK over the last 30 years.

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    Soo I’m not discussing the ethics of it here but what if the offender gets exonerated? Free pass to sue for millions + more millions because they were wrongfully incarcerated?

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      Another hypothetical but ( probably very) unlikely scenario: if two people were cahoots and one accuses the other, and the other was willing to go through with the chemical castration, and manage to prove it in court, and then the alleged offender gets exonerated ( be it with prepared evidence or the accuser admitting they mistakenly identified them ), isn’t the UK just doing a bankruptcy speedrun?

      Given the stage of capitalism we’re in, I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people did this. Or at least attempt it regardless of how stupid it is? People have done riskier, stupider, and more convoluted things for a LOT less. If that happens en masse, actual victims get less attention and sex crimes start getting taken less seriously.

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      He was charged with gross indecency (a sexual crime in our parlance) due to his homosexuality, on the mere fact of his homosexuality not a different act. He underwent chemical castration.

      TERF island, the way it’s going, I suspect may criminalize being trans - maybe in limited circumstances at first, like being trans and a teacher of young children then widening - and transgender people will be charged with sexual crimes and therefore be subject to chemical castration

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    Can you believe that in the past people used to use corporal punishment? So much more civilised to force people to ingest drugs that change their body, mind, and possibily even identity that have historically resulted in suicides at times.

    edit: at this stags it seems voluntary. If course in the legal system/healthcare many voluntary things are ‘voluntary’.