It’s part of Noah Samsen’s 3-day marathon stream fundraising for UNRWA.
Noah is moderating the debate. Noah’s title was HASAN VS BADEMPANADA DEBATE! for like 20 minutes before he changed it to HASANABI BADEMPANADA RESPECTFUL CONVERSATION
To watch from the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB9hN4963xM&t=1s
This discussion was mostly casual. They agreed on mostly everything.
The most heated disagreement they had was on the participation of Jewish people in anti-Zionist movements.
BadEmpanada says that he has a term “Jewish Exceptionalism”. I think he said that he made this term up. He says that by focusing on the opinions of Jewish people in the anti-Zionism movement gives the appearance that the opinions of Jewish people matter more.
Hasan said that Jewish Anti-Zionist groups are important because it shows uninitiated people that the Jewish religion and Zionism are separate entities. Hasan says it’s not intended to say that the opinions of Jewish people matters more.
Thank God they’ll have a moderator.
A someone tweeted, the Hasan Ethan debate was like ASMR for kids whose parents fought all the time and I don’t need that in my slop.
BE works in slop the way other artists work with oils or pastels
May the master debater win
it should be legal to rob anyone who watches streamer debates like this
i think if i were an admin i’d ban hasan posting for a week just to see how many people melt down over it (hasan simps don’t comment below I’M KIDDING your streamer is part of a protected class where Hexbear is concerned)
Why comment on this then ?
Idk why this website has Reddit-brain about things They Definitely Don’t Care About and need to let everyone know how much They Don’t Care as loudly as possible.
Like it’s really easy to go without engaging with internet blood sports slop by the virtue that the website is largely unaware of like 90% of that horseshit
Because I can?? Why are you commenting under my comment ?
Because it’s absolutely brain dead to start every post with any social media figure over 300 followers with bemoaning why anyone cares about said figure, and how you don’t care and want everyone to know how much you don’t care.
This shit belongs in mid 00s facebook
YOU INSULTED MY STREAMER YOU INSULTED MY STREAMER HOW DARE YOU COMMENT AND INSULT MY STREAMER ON A POST ABOUT MY STREAMER WHY DID YOU COMMENT ON THIS POST ABOUT MY STREAMER IF YOU DON’T LIKE MY STREAMER
My money is on the trot, lol hasan is calling him edgy leftbook (he is)
now the are talking about who did 9/11
Badempanada is a trot?
its my theory, he doesnt like modern china, he doesnt like maoist movements, he has his criticisms of the USSR, he has a positive view of the trots in argentina, also has a positive view of cuba
So how long until he transforms into a neocon?
Is it trot to believe in Cuba as a bastion of socialism in the “west”?
Edit: Genuine question, asking in good faith here
Even most socdems in europe are sympathetic to cuba. The fierce hatred is an uniquely American phenomenon.
Cuba supporting in itself means little to less in deciding if one is ML.
This lines up with my thinking. Thank you for clarifying!
yep, many trots like cuba
Well ok, let me rephrase: Is support of Cuba not an ML position?
you are missing the part where he is not an ML as showed by his opinion on china, the USSR and the maoist movements,
Oh yeah I am not arguing BE’s position, I don’t particularly care. I’m more asking for my own count if there are reasons to be critical of Cuba as an AES project (moreso than others), and how that would tie into being a Trot position etc.
I’m pretty sure MLs can be anti China and anti maoism, we had like a couple of decades where that was the standard take.
I think here it is more a determinant of trot vs Leftcom. Trots are generally supportive if critical, Leftcoms say Cuba’s armchair production maintains the commodity form.
hate seeing my besties fight
I want a good clean fight, all nut shots, close embraces where they roll on the floor and get sweaty, maybe smooch at the end a little. Socialist fraternal kiss, I’m not a freak
Hot interracial frat twunk action streamed live in XXXHD and Twitch.
I thought they were friends? Why are my dad’s fighting?
Historically they were not known to be friends. There was a internet drama, “reactgate”, “chairgate”. Twitter was debating whether it’s ethical for react streamers to make money from watching videos made by other people.
There was one time when Hasan put on a youtube video of a small youtuber and went to go to the bathroom. This wasn’t really like a normal scenario for Hasan. At the time he was known, excessively pausing during videos. Watching a video and pausing and commenting over it is generally considered to be protected by “fair use” in terms of Copyright law. The small youtuber was upset. Hasan apologized. D*stiny fans created a larger drama out of it.
During this same period, Badempanada chose to take the position against react streamers. He said that react streamers are stealing labor value from other video makers or something. I think he has changed his position to be more lenient as long as the commentary of the reactor adds new value and also he likes that he’s getting more subscribers when people react to his videos.
For this reason they avoided each other. They have made a truce in the past year. I think Badempanada was banned from twitch. Hasan only streams on twitch. This video from today is basically the first time they’ve talked publicly together
I’ve played 2 hours of the stream. It has been very casual. There’s no heated moments. They have very light criticisms of each other. Hasan thinks that Badempanada scares people because he doxes his enemies on twitter. Badempanada thinks Hasan should leave the US because the political situation is getting too bad.
I think I need to touch grass after reading this
its just a little drama, now Destiny vs Hasan is Drama and we should all touch more grass tbh
I think he has changed his position to be more lenient as long as the commentary of the reactor adds new value and also he likes that he’s getting more subscribers when people react to his videos.
BE said he allowed Hasan to watch his educational videos on stream because of the ongoing genocide and how that’s a lot more important than petty disagreements about react content.
From my limited understanding they’re not “friends” but not enemies either. Hasan has a lot of respect for BE’s well researched educational videos, but he also thinks he’s fkn insane on twitter (which BE is). BE criticizes Hasan a lot, but it’s not personal attacks. They know they’re on the same side and disagree with each other’s methods.
they should start a podcast
