Or…just make a damn removable battery And allow people to buy new batteries. I don’t need my phone to charge in half a second with a high chance of it exploding or killing itself from being charged at high speeds…I just want to be able to replace the shit you glued in
honestly agreed, I don’t mind the fast charging, but I would love removable batteries. Even if it meant shorter life spans. like I used to be able to pay 20-30$ on a battery and replace it, but now you need adhesive and a heat gun
That was the case on the old Motorola StarTac. One battery was attached to the top of the flip, and then there was a larger battery that could be clipped onto the back. Both would power the phone so as long as one had power you could swap the other.
Nokia n900 could do it live, with a charger connected instead of a second battery.
You disabled the watchdog, because root access was officially supported, turned the brightness way down, connected the charger, and finally swapped the batteries.
my headset does this, I’m spoiled by it and I’ll never go back. I’m fully ok with putting up with some of the issues with the headset exclusively cause of this feature. It’s so nice
I’ve used two headsets that done it, the Arctis Pro Wireless and turtle beach stealth pro, I highly recommend the Arctis Pro wireless over the turtle beach though as the Arctis Pro wireless was a seemless swap, where the turtle beach has a 10-15 second delay swapping battery.
A pet peeve of mine is when I drop my phone 2 feet from the floor and the battery pops out.
I’d rather see a different mechanism where you trigger a battery removal by inserting a sim tool pin, just like how the sim cards are removed. This way, we can preserve IP ratings.
You can still replace the battery. It requires more work but it’s generally not a complicated or difficult process on most phones and you only have to do it every few years. I’m not trying to defend non-removable batteries, but I think sometimes consumers pretend they are more powerless than they actually are over these issues.
Isnt the problem with a swappable battery, like you describe, that the phone will lose its waterproofing?
Dont get me wrong, i dont think they should be welded to the internals like they are these days, they should be easily removable, but getting into the phone shouldsnt be super simple unless they find a decent way to waterproof a removable back plate.
That’s pretty cool! i never had the S5. Looks like a good solution. It looks like it would work on a lot of phones today.
Although, i think there are design changes to consider on newer phones with more powerful hardware. I believe they contain empty space that is there to aid with cooling the phone so the solid body of the S5 shown in the link might not work, meaning there would need to be a specific cut out space for the gasket to seal against.
I appreciate that its probably not the most challenging problem to overcome, and i would very much appreciate companies spending more money on solving the issue. But i don’t think its a “one size fits all” solution in a world of vastly differing design choices, folding phones and modular phones.
Having said all that, i would much prefer for there to be less makes and models of phone and for the focus to be on designing something that won’t be useless in 5 years. It should all be about longevity and reducing e waste.
You shouldn’t need to do that anymore, batteries are much larger and chipsets are more efficient than when removable batteries were the norm. But even if you do need to charge, that’s why fast charging exists.
How do you charge the 2nd battery? Do you charge it slowly when home and keep it as spare while you use your main battery and wait for it to charge to full.
Remember when you too some spare AA batteries with you for your Gameboy/Walkman/Discman so that you didn’t run out of juice in the back seat of your parents suburban on the way to grandma’s?
There used to be external chargers. I’m not speaking Nokia times, I had a Xiaomi phablet with Android 5 or 6 with one of these. Just a frame for the battery with an USB input.
I have a Fairphone with swappable battery, I keep one charged at 80% in case I need a quick reload of my phone. And after I used it, I recharge it in the phone and swap back to the empty one to also recharge it.
Carrying a spare battery is much more compact than a power bank and charging cable though. Or even a wall adapter and charging cable, which also requires an outlet.
Or…just make a damn removable battery And allow people to buy new batteries. I don’t need my phone to charge in half a second with a high chance of it exploding or killing itself from being charged at high speeds…I just want to be able to replace the shit you glued in
honestly agreed, I don’t mind the fast charging, but I would love removable batteries. Even if it meant shorter life spans. like I used to be able to pay 20-30$ on a battery and replace it, but now you need adhesive and a heat gun
I read somewhere about a phone that had 2 batteries, that way you could swap batteries with the phone remained turned on during the process!
That was the case on the old Motorola StarTac. One battery was attached to the top of the flip, and then there was a larger battery that could be clipped onto the back. Both would power the phone so as long as one had power you could swap the other.
Nokia n900 could do it live, with a charger connected instead of a second battery.
You disabled the watchdog, because root access was officially supported, turned the brightness way down, connected the charger, and finally swapped the batteries.
my headset does this, I’m spoiled by it and I’ll never go back. I’m fully ok with putting up with some of the issues with the headset exclusively cause of this feature. It’s so nice
Can you share the model name of your headset?
I’ve used two headsets that done it, the Arctis Pro Wireless and turtle beach stealth pro, I highly recommend the Arctis Pro wireless over the turtle beach though as the Arctis Pro wireless was a seemless swap, where the turtle beach has a 10-15 second delay swapping battery.
The old ThinkPad T480 has this: an internal battery plus a hotswappable external one
Yeah my T460s has an internal and external
Used to be somewhat common as I recall back with flip phones (yes Im old.)
New shiftphone at least has a replaceable battery iirc.
I’m pretty sure taking out the battery of a feature phone would turn it off instantly.
My Xiaomy (2, 5 note pro) had that, just power off, pop the back, switch in a fully loaded 5€ 3200mAh battery and go.
Had a “station” for charging them too.
A pet peeve of mine is when I drop my phone 2 feet from the floor and the battery pops out.
I’d rather see a different mechanism where you trigger a battery removal by inserting a sim tool pin, just like how the sim cards are removed. This way, we can preserve IP ratings.
Pretty sure it’s by design. It transfer the kinetic energy when it falls and keep the phone safe.
There’s reason why old Nokia is called indestructible.
You can still replace the battery. It requires more work but it’s generally not a complicated or difficult process on most phones and you only have to do it every few years. I’m not trying to defend non-removable batteries, but I think sometimes consumers pretend they are more powerless than they actually are over these issues.
With a replaceable battery, you just carry a second one and swap them on the go
Isnt the problem with a swappable battery, like you describe, that the phone will lose its waterproofing?
Dont get me wrong, i dont think they should be welded to the internals like they are these days, they should be easily removable, but getting into the phone shouldsnt be super simple unless they find a decent way to waterproof a removable back plate.
I’m going to reply with a link to review of a phone that solved it with IP67 rating
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-s5-smartphone,3908-3.html
That’s pretty cool! i never had the S5. Looks like a good solution. It looks like it would work on a lot of phones today.
Although, i think there are design changes to consider on newer phones with more powerful hardware. I believe they contain empty space that is there to aid with cooling the phone so the solid body of the S5 shown in the link might not work, meaning there would need to be a specific cut out space for the gasket to seal against.
I appreciate that its probably not the most challenging problem to overcome, and i would very much appreciate companies spending more money on solving the issue. But i don’t think its a “one size fits all” solution in a world of vastly differing design choices, folding phones and modular phones.
Having said all that, i would much prefer for there to be less makes and models of phone and for the focus to be on designing something that won’t be useless in 5 years. It should all be about longevity and reducing e waste.
You shouldn’t need to do that anymore, batteries are much larger and chipsets are more efficient than when removable batteries were the norm. But even if you do need to charge, that’s why fast charging exists.
In which you’d need a power bank and cable that youre carrying if you don’t want to be tethered to an outlet (which may or may not be available.)
Seems a second battery is just a better option.
How do you charge the 2nd battery? Do you charge it slowly when home and keep it as spare while you use your main battery and wait for it to charge to full.
Remember when you too some spare AA batteries with you for your Gameboy/Walkman/Discman so that you didn’t run out of juice in the back seat of your parents suburban on the way to grandma’s?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
There used to be external chargers. I’m not speaking Nokia times, I had a Xiaomi phablet with Android 5 or 6 with one of these. Just a frame for the battery with an USB input.
I have a Fairphone with swappable battery, I keep one charged at 80% in case I need a quick reload of my phone. And after I used it, I recharge it in the phone and swap back to the empty one to also recharge it.
Carrying a spare battery is much more compact than a power bank and charging cable though. Or even a wall adapter and charging cable, which also requires an outlet.
Just a sec Mom, I’ll just change my battery!