I know you’ve all been fed a lot of pro Ukrainian propaganda over the past few years but to think they’re not a bunch of shifty cunts is naïve beyond belief 😂
They’ve always been dodgy as fuck, even Ukrainians will admit that lol
Man, fuck this war, no one is gonna be well off even if the Ukrainians win now
I can’t believe the British Brobaganda Corporation is publishing this. What does this mean? Slowly abandoning Ukraine?
Kit Klarenberg: It’s Official: US Abandoning Ukraine
On January 19th, TIME magazine published an astonishing article, amply confirming what dissident, anti-war academics, activists, journalists and researchers have argued for a decade. The US always intended to abandon Ukraine after setting up the country for proxy war with Russia, and never had any desire or intention to assist Kiev in defeating Moscow in the conflict, let alone achieving its maximalist aims of regaining Crimea and restoring the country’s 1991 borders. To have a major mainstream outlet finally corroborate this indubitable reality is a seismic development.
The TIME article’s brief first paragraph alone is rife with explosive revelations. It notes when the proxy war erupted in February 2022, then-President Joe Biden “set three objectives for the US response” - and “Ukraine’s victory was never among them.” Moreover, the phrase oft-repeated by White House apparatchiks, that Washington would support Kiev “for as long as it takes”, was never meant to be taken literally. Instead, it was just “intentionally vague” newspeak, with no implied timeframe or even desired outcome in mind.
Markedly, Zelensky was not invited to Trump’s inauguration. In a January 6th interview with Newsweek, the Ukrainian President - typically never one to shy away from international jollies - said he was unable to attend, as it wasn’t “proper” to do so “during the war”. Amusingly, Trump’s son Donald Jr. has rubbished Zelensky’s narrative, claiming he - “a weirdo” - had specifically “asked for an invite” on three occasions, “and each time got turned down.”
billions have dissappeared so this army psychiatrist must be one of the small fish that they feel they can sacrafice.
or worse yet: they did it fbi style and manufactured the criminal so that they can arrest him.
either way, it’s having a serious impact on ukraine’s ability to fight.
They nabbed him partially because it can be hailed as great success againt the corruption, but in reality it’s just tip of the tip of the tip of entire iceberg, but the real reason was that what could psychiatrist even take the bribes for? Of course for excluding people from draft, which is a big no-no now.
In the comments section of an article about the war last week, I wrote that Ukraine was the most corrupt country in Europe. I included the link to transparency.org with the data.
The bbc removed the comment. And upheld the section on appeal.
the western narrative on ukraine is just as strong as it is with isreal, so you probably shouldn’t expect to break through anytime soon.
Ukraine was famously corrupt before this war, before the Maidan coup, and before the Yanukovych administration.
And now that the war is failing, and the hunt is on for scapegoats, corruption allegations will fly.
The war is failing on Ukraine’s end? Why do oil refineries and storage facilities explode deep in Russian territory on a weekly basis if Ukraine is losing?
Because 1) they’re losing territory more quickly now than ever, 2) they’re running out of people to kidnap off the streets and shove to the front lines, and 3) the US is about to leave them holding the bag[1][2]. Russia is the largest country in the world by a long shot and over 6,000 miles deep. All Ukraine can do is make pockmarks on its western edges.
Ukraine is actively trying to battle their corruption, with this being a step towards that end, however small.
Meanwhile Russia is famously more corrupt than Ukraine, has been since long before Maidan, attempted to pervert Ukraine’s elections to install a corrupt leader under their control, and then invaded in an attempt to expropriate Ukrainian land and resources when that attempt failed.
What point are you trying to make here?
Meanwhile Russia is famously more corrupt than Ukraine, has been since long before Maidan
That’s a lie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
2020-2023 - Russia is more corrupt
2012-2019 - more or less the same, sometimes Russia wins sometimes Ukraine
1995-2012 - Ukraine is more corruptattempted to pervert Ukraine’s elections to install a corrupt leader under their control
Are you talking about 2010 elections?
After the second round of the election international observers and the OSCE called the election transparent and honest
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election#International_observers
You’re either lying again, or using the typical western-liberal “it’s only democracy if our candidate winds” (or, well, both).Nice disinformation bro
If you’re going to try and call somebody out like that, you should do your homework.
The only times since 1998 (the first year of data for Ukraine) that Russia was deemed less corrupt than Ukraine were the stretches from 2000-2004 and 2011-2015.
Ukraine performed better than Russia 1998-1999, 2005-2008, 2010, and 2017-2023. They were a cumulative 20 points better on corruption than Russia over that time.
No, I’m talking about the 2004 elections. In case you’d forgotten, Russia was so upset about failing that they attempted to assassinate the rightful winner. When Yanukovych eventually gained power, he was so transparent about wanting to turn Ukraine into an authoritarian vassal state of Russia that parliament removed him and undid his efforts to convert the presidency into a dictatorship. And then he fled to Russia.
I think I made my point?
And now that the war is failing, and the hunt is on for scapegoats, corruption allegations will fly.
You did not. You hinted at a point without stating it directly.
Are you saying that this corruption charge is disingenuous and intended to redirect attention from other issues? Because if so you need to make that explicit and then support it with evidence. Otherwise it sounds like you’re parroting known disinformation.
Are you saying that this corruption charge is disingenuous
I have no idea how genuine this particular corruption charge is, but given how rife with corruption the country is, I’m inclined to believe it.
My point is that I think patsies are now being chosen to take the fall in lieu of the most powerful oligarchs and government functionaries, who are also corrupt.
Otherwise it sounds like you’re parroting known disinformation.
What disinformation does it sound like I’m parroting?
